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Haha. Sympathy troll? I hope you don't get banned because you're entertaining. I guess saying not to do the same thing shitty people do and to rise above it is me giving them sympathy? You got some wires crossed. You're what I consider a left radical. And don't misunderstand. I'm a left-leaning libertarian. We are one of the weirdest groups on the left. Like expecting personal freedoms in a social government. I get it's odd, but you are saying that the only way to win is to troll the trolls. What does that accomplish besides vilifying us further down the road instead of continuing to let Trump's GOP continue to implode.
And if people do decide that they feel their side is wrong and switch to the other side, it is fine. However (through experience), you are the only person I've interacted with who has said that. So with all evidence that I have seen you are minority in that belief. Everyone else has absolute condemnation in their mind
lol I’m really not a “left radical”.
My political identity, if I had to put a name to it, would probably be closest to “Scandinavian Socialist”, but there’s a fair bit of nuance that doesn’t quite match up. For instance: I’m a strong proponent of right to privacy, but I fully disagree that personal freedoms are incompatible with socialism. They’re orthogonal, most of the time, and when they do intersect, reasonable governments (see: scandanavian socialism) do try to find the least onerous balance that preserves the common good, while restricting personal rights as lightly as possible. Its government. It’s not perfect, it’s not going to ever be perfect, and there are TONS of interrelated, often contradictory goals that they must balance. But from what I’ve read and seen, it does seem like that system often gets a pretty positive result in a very broad swath of categories.
Anyways: I’m not talking about trolls, or “shitty people”, in general. I’m talking about fascist trolls - the most important component of that term being fascist. I’m perfectly happy to ignore or mess with garden-variety trolls, but the fascism flavored ones are different - particularly because they’re having a distressing amount of success all over the world these days in getting into power. If someone judges me for being shitty to a fascist, I’m going not only not care about their opinion, but also judge them for being sympathetic to a fascist. Fascism is a special and exceptional case, and different rules apply when dealing with it.
I will look up Scandinavian socialism because I've never heard of that specifically.
But with that being said, and with all due respect, are you calling me a fascist troll now?
Edit: Read up on it and found that "Scandinavian socialism" is a (this might be bad wording for it) red herring.
https://fee.org/articles/don-t-call-scandinavian-countries-socialist/
https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/the-myth-scandinavian-socialism
But I'll continue to research to see that perhaps the sources could potentially be bias
Edit 2: I'll update with what sources I discover. I will read the articles, but it started with a simple Google search of "Scandinavian Soscialism"
https://www.lifeinnorway.net/scandinavian-socialism/
https://mattbruenig.com/2017/07/28/nordic-socialism-is-realer-than-you-think/
https://catalyst.independent.org/2023/04/18/scandinavian-socialist/
https://bobocheesechimp.medium.com/clearing-up-the-confusion-about-the-nordic-countries-and-socialism-a9c6f884abe3
Edit 3: I'm done. Scandinavian socialism is not real