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I don't know what's more sad, that guy or that half of your country is stupid enough to vote him
Half of voters*
Half of the voters indeed, probably more than half the country
It's more like a third rather than half. But our busted system gives outsized representation to people who live in sparsely populated states.
It's similar to the percentage of Germans who supported the NAZIs back in the 1930s.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
Sparsely populated states with a lot of lead in the drinking water
doesn't that technically make him the "DEI candidate"
He's polling at about 45%. The third is his base but there are a lot of independents who plan to vote for him, and they're the ones who decide elections.
He’s polling at about 45% (plus or minus about six points), but that 45% only counts the ~66% of people who actually vote. So it’s only 28-33% of the population that actively supports him enough to vote for him.
I'm not sure if that makes it sound better or worse
The latter.
There have always been despicable people like Trump, and I'm certain that, as horrible people go, he's not even in the top thousand of horrible people alive today.
It's far more sad that so many people in the US are willing to overlook his faults; even if you discount his rabid base, it's especially sad that close to another 20% of Americans who are more or less centrists (for Americans) are willing to overlook the fact that he admits that he's working toward a dictatorship. This is the most depressing thing, for me.
Hey now, he's a very stable genius.
Trump never won the popular vote and he's more unpopular now than he's ever been. Never has half of this country voted for him, not even close, and it isn't true now either
But I read everywhere that it's close between the two candidates, is that not true?
He was technically less popular at this same point in the 2016 election. He can absolutely still win if things go the same way that 2016 did. Liberals didn’t fucking vote in 2016, (for a variety of reasons), which handed the win to Trump.
It can still be close but that is close between the people that vote. More than half of all Americans do not vote consistently. We don't have mandatory elections, so if half the country doesn't vote and its close between the two candidates, then its close between two quarters of the population, not half. And it seems maybe a little pedantic, but those half of people who don't vote are either disenfranchised or implicitly choosing neither candidate. Half the voting population is not half the population; those non voters are actual people. Maybe if they were treated as an important part of the electorate, they would vote. Maybe they wouldn't vote for a republican or a democrat, in which case it is also in the dems best interest to disenfranchise voters, although that certainly isn't the conventional wisdom, nor is it the mission of the millions of volunteers who work to sign people up to vote on important issues.
Doesn’t mean it’s not true…
That’s true, the corruption is mostly at the top.
Signed, —A person who doesn’t want to vote republican or democrat