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[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

No. Fuck Russian leadership. Let's make it clear, the aggression is Putin and his choices.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

and most of the russian people are supporting it...I wish it would be different, but even with more than a year into it, with all the sanctions, the deaths, the changed lifestyle, 2/3 of the russian population (rich, poor, countryside or towns) are supporting the russian leadership and the war...

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

I'd claim support too if the alternative was jail.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

that's too easy...the hate for all what is west is anchored deeply in the russian society. This country has been brainwashed for centuries.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago
[-] avater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

still it was accepted by the russians for centuries...sorry this country could have put putin and his propaganda down but they decided against it, to keep their lifestyle...

I abhor russia for that.

[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In a way, can you blame the average Russian for being afraid to speak out against leadership, whatever their personal feelings may be? Ever heard of Lenin? Stalin? The Romanovs? Political dissidents are not and never were treated kindly in Russia.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yes I do!

I have friends who left russia or belarus for speaking out what they think of this perverted vision of russia! They did not held back and it's the fault of the russian people that they have this leadership, because they rather accepted it for all the years instead rising against it!

Putin has all the power because not enough people fought him!

[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

If only all Russians were so brave. Not sure I would be in a country where you can be arrested for literally saying Two words.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

then do not wonder if at some point in the future they still knock on your door and deport you and your family...

[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

All Russians? I dont think they'd fit on my front porch.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Right, so in other words, not "all russians" are cunts. Which is exactly the point ive been trying to make.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

most of them then and I never wrote that all russians stand behind putin

[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago

Alright pal I have better things to do than argue with a stranger on the internet all day. Keep living in your fantasy world.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] MxM111@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, this is due to propaganda, made and controlled by Russian leadership. There is no independent press or TV in Russia.

[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The average Russian isn't to blame. Are many of them brainwashed? Yes, but that alone doesn't make them evil. Also, I'm pretty sure you made up that 2/3 of Russians statistic.

Don't let the decisions of a handful of legacy-obsessed warmongers trick you into hating the population of an entire country.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] blunderworld@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did you even read the article you posted?

According to the most recent ExtremeScan poll, support for the war fell 13% in one year — from 64% in March and April 2022 to 51% in April 2023. That is significant, but it’s clearly not enough to make the Putin regime tremble.  

There is some greater light cast by other surveys, however. Russian Field found that only 27% of Russians support further military escalation while 34% want peace talks. Slightly confusingly, 33% favor both options at the same time. The trends are clear enough — backing for the war is on a slowly declining path and the issue is extremely divisive. More importantly, the reasons and justifications people use to make sense of the war have shifted.

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's not just Putin. A lot of Russians actually support the war.

[-] Galactic_Rebel@mastodon.social 5 points 1 year ago

@Zoldyck @Luci
And are apparently still actively vacationing in Crimea which is absurd. War needs to be brought to their ignorant asses hard.

[-] Slotos@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

That’s a metric fuckton of Putin clones fighting in this war then.

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