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[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The reasons why this is such a big f'g deal are many.

First, this IS textbook terrorism. An entire country full of civilians is paralyzed with fear of any item blowing up at any moment. In addition to the killing and maiming, this is deliberate.

Second, Mossad is innovating new theaters of warfare. Others will imitate this. This further legitimizes any place -- hospitals, schools, houses of warship -- as legitimate venues for bombing. And that includes in the US.

Third, this is ANOTHER escalation! Most of us don't want a giant regional war! And yet people act like Hezbollah was so provocative that they gave Israel no choice. Netanyahu is clearly the instigator! Hezbollah is actually in a terrible place to fight a war. They do not want this, but feel constantly compelled to maintain their credibility. They have repeatedly taken a minimalist approach because they really don't want to fight this war. This could end instantly if Israel just accepted a ceasefire in Gaza. Ironically, Israel is escalating in Lebanon because there is basically nothing left to blow up in Gaza and Netanyahu needs a constant war to stay out of jail. The claim that this is to let residents in the north go home is the same as the claim that the war in Gaza was to bring back hostages. A year later, ask the kibbutzim how that worked out.

All of this is common knowledge in Israel. The head of the military is about to be replaced for repeatedly stating that all of this is contrary to Israel's security!

It's just insane.

[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -3 points 9 hours ago

Why doesn't Hezbollah try not firing on Israel? Turns out when they do, Israel doesn't strike back. I think it's stupid to think Hezbollah should be free to attack Israel but any response is 'escalation'. If you're serious that you don't want war rule n°1 should be: don't start shooting rockets at them

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 0 points 5 hours ago

This is such a weird, unproductive observation that people make all the time.

First: my point is that we in the US should recognize that Israel's actions are making the US and Israel less safe. It would definitely be nice if Hezbollah stopped fighting, but that is essentially a non-sequitur. It's not a counter argument that what Mossad did is a good idea that any of us should support.

Second: this observation that they could end the war by not fighting is true of every side in every war. Russia could end their war in Ukraine if they stopped invading. Ukraine could end the war if they surrendered and let Russia invade them. Hezbollah and Israel could both end this war by not fighting it. What practical guidance does that provide?

I'm not interested in watching this like a history channel documentary. When I type, I'm expressing what I think we should all say and do as people with (supposedly) the ability to influence our governments. I don't have control over Hezbollah. I don't really have control over Israel or the US either, but at least I'm supposed to.

[-] Hlodwig@lemmy.world -4 points 11 hours ago

Bruh... Chill... Hezbollah is launching rocket indiscriminately at civilians, Israël is carefully choosing its target with these device. Average lebanese dont give a fuck about this, they want Hezbollah to get the fuck back in Iran and want a normal and not corrupted government... Thats all. They fear much more about their own country going deeper into the shit and another accident due to poor government control (like Beirut harbour explosion), than Israël commiting surgical strike near them (most of lebanese see the death of this douchbag as a good news).

And its not an escalation, assassination of high ranked dickheads of Hezbollah/Hamas/Iran has always been their creed. It was like this before Netty, it will be the case after, and until no other threats to Israel exist (So basically until Iran political implosion).

Netty and his braindead settlers are only opportunists of a war between Israël and Iran that never ended. But the situation would have been the same if Netty never existed...

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Carefully choosing to murder 2 kids?

[-] Hlodwig@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Much careful than sending randomly launched rocket on civilian... All the victims were from Hezbollah or related to them. Hezbollah representative in Lebanon is the one responsible for his son death, his choice of hatred and war is what lead to his son death...

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