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i could've sworn frodo was 33
Bilbo was 111, and Frodo was 33 during the birthday party when Bilbo left the Shire.
Only 17 years later, when he's 50, does Frodo go off on the Quest to destroy the ring.
I'm making my way through the books right now and I haven't seen the films in ages, but if I recall correctly it's much less clear in those that there was a time skip. Which yea if I were adapting a book I'd also skip the bit where JRRT says "and then nothing of importance happened for 17 years, apart from the fact Gandalf was travelling to do research about the ring and kinda went missing recently".
People getting all out of shape about the age of the hobbits whereas Gandalf was created at the beginning of time, which is much older than 2019 years old. That's likely the age of his current physical manifestation, but his spirit is truly ancient.
The Universe in Middle earth is about 55,000 years old, but that's stated to be created after creation, so Gandalf was created before that.
Gandalf arrived in Middle Earth in the year 1000 of the Third Age. So he's been around in that form for about 2000 years since Bilbo's farewell party took place in the 3001st year of the Third Age. The Fellowship was founded in 3018 so Gandalf is about that old if we're only counting his time in Middle Earth like you say
Edit: This is in part why people are upset with the Rings of Power show. If this not-Gandalf character ends up being Gandalf, he'll have arrived in Middle Earth about 3000 years too early. On top of that there are just a lot of other timeline deviations, including the order of the forging of the rings which you would imagine the whole show to be about.
The only way to solve that is to kill his form later. But we are talking about a show that cleaned its ass with the books and then threw them to a dumpster fire.