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[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

It's kind of funny seeing these kind of comments on Lemmy and playing the "alt-right or tankie" game before you see someones instance.

What we as the west get from helping Ukriane, is soft power in that it sends a message to other dictators around the world that we won't just sit back and let them plough into another country, and while we might not start WW3 over it, we will support them to make it hard as possible for you.

[-] RonJonGuaido@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

It's kind of funny seeing these kind of comments on Lemmy and playing the "alt-right or tankie" game before you see someones instance.

huh, i see comments like yours and i think "lib moron" and then i don't give it another thought.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Maybe you should stop plowing into other countries yourselves, you bloodthirsty psychos.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The UK hasn't invaded anywhere in almost two decades, what are you waffling about.

[-] Bnova@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Yeah, invasions are out of fashion. All the West does is make a country's development contingent on their willingness to let the West exploit their natural resources and labor and then cut said development if they fund a social program or coup them if the "locals" are uncooperative. All after gutting these countries for hundreds of years via colonialism. You don't need to do an invasion when you can just put a noose around the neck of a country.

Oh and the West still does invasions look at Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. And UK special forces have been in Syria, the Sudan, Nigeria, and others as recently as last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/23/uk-special-forces-have-operated-secretly-in-19-countries-since-2011

[-] Bakzik@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Average neoliberal Pirate. Your bloodthirsty country should return all the gold and art that was stolen from all around the world.

PD: Read about neocolonialism.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

How dare you call me a murderer? I haven't killed anyone in almost two years!

[-] Farman@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except that in this case they are saying that while killing someone.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

AKSHULLY right now I'm just repeatedly stabbing a man. We can't know for certain if he's actually dead until I'm done.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Tell that to Yemen.

Also 'we haven't invaded anywhere in the very immediate past (though the genocidal war criminals who perpetrated our last invasion are still important and celebrated public figures)' is a pretty fucking weak justification from a country insisting on being world police.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Absolute brain worms claiming this as a talking point

[-] panopticon@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

we as the west

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Have you heard of scotland/wales/northern ireland?

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[-] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

We were literally in Libya bombing civilians and training al quaeda cells just 12 years ago

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

that it sends a message to other dictators

What message is America sending to the dictators that we bankroll while they perform genocide using US equipment and training?

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Those are the other dictators. There's also our dictators - those are the good ones!

[-] Bobby_DROP_TABLES@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

won't just sit back and let them plough into another country

Do you think the west has a genuine interest in consistently enforcing this or do you just not care when people you like do it?

[-] YaaAsantewaa@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Only white countries though, when it comes to black people and brown people you don't give a rats ass, there's still dictators all over the world that none of you even give a s*** about

[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

That's fine but why are they banning socialist parties, integrating fascist paramilitaries into the army, and privatizing land? That all seems a little familiar.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah we've really cultivated a lot of prestiege on this one, the west definitely hasn't absolutely embarrassed itself and unified large swathes of the world against it. And hey, it only took like three rounds of sabotaged peace talks and and multiple generations of Ukranians fed into a big novelty Northrop-Grumman branded meat grinder.

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

it sends a message to other dictators around the world that we won't just sit back and let them plough into another country,

You mean like the collective west did to Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya? Who's supposed to send the message to our dictators when it's time to stop?

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

we won't just sit back and let them plough into another country,

only WE plough into other countries USA! USA! USA!

[-] Farman@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

You could say the same thing but with putin sending the message and it would be more acurate.

[-] UnhealthyPersona@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

For some people, everything has to be a conspiracy. Logical, easily verifiable reasons for things can't possibly be the truth to them. Especially if it comes from the opposing political party, it is automatically false to them. Even if verifiable.

Honestly I wasn't sure of the benefit either, but your response makes so much sense. I don't know why there always has to be conspiracies for obvious stuff.

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