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About 49,500 people took their own lives last year in the U.S., the highest number ever, according to new government data posted Thursday.

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[-] whats_a_refoogee@sh.itjust.works 140 points 1 year ago

I will probably get shit for this, since it's a predominantly left leaning space, but until society starts acknowledging men's issues it will keep getting worse.

https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics

In 2021, men died by suicide 3.90x more than women.

In 2021, firearms accounted for 54.64% of all suicide deaths.

This article is an excellent example of what I am talking about. It does not even mention the disparity of suicide rates between the sexes despite it obviously being a huge outlier. Instead, they talk about how guns are the problem, even though a gun is just a method.

Taking away the easy methods to commit suicide might reduce the rate, but it does nothing to address to core issues that make people want to kill themselves in the first place. Instead of 5000 dead people you will have 5000 people who wish they were dead. Mission accomplished.

[-] iyaerP@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well, since gun control in this country is basically verboten, one of the simplest ways to reduce suicide is a non-starter.

[-] Impassionata@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I know you mean well but you're like the person who makes suicidal tendencies more powerful because you want to shut all the windows in a burning building because you personally find falling bodies less aesthetically pleasing than burning ones.

[-] Rose@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

As someone who thinks that people should have the right to end their life, I still think guns might be an issue because they can make it very quick and allow no time to think it through. Even some of the other accessible methods take some preparation, and each step is a chance to think again.

[-] Impassionata@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I understood this perspective already. You'd rather process suicide into a pipeline in which "reasonable" suicide is more common than deal with the factors driving people to suicide.

Your need to control the "problem" is part of the overbearing control driving people to suicide. It's my opinion that you'd be better off accepting the choice and not trying to second-guess men who shoot themselves, even if they're drunk, impulsive, or any manner of "irrational" about it. (Rationality is a myth designed to sell more socially approved behaviors.)

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