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[-] Zeke@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago

The plan is to dismantle democracy if Trump wins. They're putting up with him to gain full control. We don't get another chance after that.

[-] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

Hence the 2nd amendment and civil war. Unfortunately, you do get a second chance, but it will be ugly and costly.

[-] Zeke@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

So you're voting for war and genocide. Got it

[-] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Bro, voting for either of them won't stop the warring or the genociding. The US can't not be involved in some kind of armed conflict and also maintain the current hegemony. Just because we put a veneer of democracy on it, doesn't make it any better, in fact it makes it worse. Either the majority of the populace is cool with it (tyranny of the majority, yay democracy?) or the leaders do it without the consent of the governed and the populace doesn't immediately depose (tacit consent by virtue of not giving enough fucks to overcome the inertia, yay democracy?). Voting in a two party system is like picking between a shit sandwich and a diarrhea smoothie.

I'm not voting at all actually. The whole system is too depressing to engage. Of all the games humans choose to play, we chose this one with all this misery and strife and assholes. Voting won't make any of it better. Two centuries in with industrial technology, and we can only seem to achieve some kind of bullshit metastability of two steps forward, one step back, for anything. History syndicates generationally with the same dumb things happening over and over. We are capable of so much more than this. We can imagine such wondrous things. Yet we are consumed by avarice, lust for power, tribalism, emotional thinking. Humanity doesn't deserve the gift of consciousness.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

That's an incredibly privileged take. Who's to say that you don't end up a victim under the genocide Trump and friends wish to enact upon the American population? Or your friends and family? Coworkers? Peers?

Accelerationism is not the answer. It will not lead to anything except an unstable country filled with strife and infighting, and it certainly won't lead to any sort of social progress. Positive change happens slowly, you cannot force it through violence.

[-] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

Positive change happens slowly, you cannot force it through violence.

I'd argue a guillotine dramatically improved social progress, and for the time period, pretty quickly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution

this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2024
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