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[-] aramis87@fedia.io 112 points 5 days ago

“One of the biggest functions of blocking is giving women the ability to stop weird men from constantly making them uncomfortable and scared,” one user wrote. “So of course Elon had to change that.”

Given how he constantly tries to insert himself and his opinions into everything he sees, it's clear he has no idea about how consent works, nor why people don't want him in their lives.

[-] Butterbee@beehaw.org 36 points 5 days ago

I honestly don't think it's a matter of him not understanding how consent works and more of a matter that he sees consent as something that gets in his way.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 days ago

Or maybe just refuses to fathom that other people could not want to talk to him. If he has a psych file I'm sure it's darkly fascinating.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 days ago

Consent doesn't matter to rich people. It's not exclusive to Musk.

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago

Rather people have no idea how blocking on 𝕏 worked/works. You were ALWAYS able to see tweets from people that blocked you by simply logging out or using an alt account.

I don’t understand all this fuss about this simple change. He only removes a useless feature that was never more than a minor inconvenience for those that got blocked.

If you don’t want people to see your tweets, lock your profile. This worked before and this still works just fine.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 36 points 5 days ago

You were ALWAYS able to see tweets from people that blocked you by simply logging out or using an alt account.

Well, yeah. It's a different account. That's how accounts work. Do you think one account blocking someone should result in every account blocking them too?

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

Having a public (i.e. not locked) Twit𝕏 account and believing you can block single people is a bit stupid to begin with.

When screaming on a market square, you can’t demand for single people to “please not listen” to what you’re screaming.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 days ago

Locking your front door won't keep someone out who really wants to get in.

Is that stupid, too?

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Of course, not. But closing and locking the door doesn’t prevent the person on the other side to still listen in on your conversations…

[-] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 7 points 4 days ago

So then we should just get rid of doors?

[-] Butterbee@beehaw.org 15 points 4 days ago

When I block someone I do not care if they see what I post. I just do not want them to be able to interact with it. I don't want to see them. I don't want their opinion. But it's fine if they want to spend their energy fuming about whatever I post. Or more likely, simply who I am.

[-] amju_wolf@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

...and that's how it still works.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well, I don't use Twitter. So that's all you.
But blocking accounts have been a thing for decades. It's not a new concept.

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

In closed systems like messengers, where you don’t see any content unless logged in, yes. There, it works brilliantly. But on Twitter, this is like cutting out something from a newspaper when there’s a news stand right next door.

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 6 points 4 days ago

Twitter has DMs, plus it helps by not allowing that person to reply unless they create a new account.

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

And it’s exactly like this now, if I understand the change correctly. They only removed the “you can’t see this post because the owner limits who can see it” thing. Blocked people still can’t reply.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah. It works like a Discord block basically. (Ignoring that Discord doesn't block users in group voice settings.)

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

You do realize it's the same thing here, right?

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Yep, that’s why I don’t get all this panicking about the Twitter change…

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't think anyone is panicking.
Most people point and laugh at Twitter.

Twitter was considered the defacto public square for a long time. It's not that anymore.

Well, not unless you metaphorically moved to Airstrip One, Oceania.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 5 days ago

simply logging out or using an alt account

It is increasingly difficult to use X without an account. Not sure what the signup process is like nowadays. IIRC it used to require phone number verification in the Twitter days, but perhaps Musk relaxed the requirements in order to better pad the usage stats with spambots?

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 days ago

or, even better: delete twitter altogether

[-] pre@fedia.io 6 points 4 days ago

@mbirth@lemmy.ml And yet that minor inconvenience is enough of a hurdle that Musk thinks he has to get rid of it. Following a profile logged-out is impossible now, and alt-accounts are a pain to maintain. I'd wager that in way over half of the cases where someone is blocked, they do in fact then never see the blocker's posts because they don't run alts or view logged out.

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Following a profile logged-out is impossible now

What do you mean? I can just open an Incognito tab and go to x.com/ and see all posts (without replies, though).

because they don't run alts

I think you underestimate the dedication of some of those trolls. Also, most apps allow to easily switch between profiles with like 2 taps.

[-] pre@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

@mbirth@lemmy.ml "Some of them", sure.

Which is not 90% of them. It's the exceptions.

If a block-button stopping read-ability works in 80% of the cases, it's better than one that works in zero percent of the cases.

Look at twitter.com/@elonmusk in a private tab.

Most of the posts you see are from 2022!?

The block button on Twitter has gone from 80% effective to 0% effective.

Well done Musk. Well done.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

If anything, this stops giving people the illusion of privacy when they block people.

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