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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 weeks ago

Biologically male or female would be more correct as gender is a social construct.

I'm just using the term they used.

Also the term is referring to their original status pre-hormonal or other gender affirming care so no.

AFAB/AMAB is for the original status.

You’re the only person here who has used that term.

The logic you're coming from is what's taught in basic biology. You didn't use the term, but you used the knowledge. I bet this politician has used the term though, but I'm not going to dig to find out because I don't really care.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

AFAB/AMAB is for the original status.

You're literally splitting hairs when the phrases mean the same thing.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago

No, it's not. What part makes someone "biologically" male or female? If their hormones are such that they are growing in the manner you'd expect for a male or female then they are biologically that sex, regardless of what they were at birth. Your chromosomes are not your biology. A(M/F)AB is unambiguous and clear. Biologically male or female could be referring to a number of biological processes in their body, many/most of which are associated with their chosen gender if they're undergoing HRT.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

If their hormones are such that they are growing in the manner you'd expect for a male or female then they are biologically that sex

Show me a research paper that makes this claim. It is called gender affirming care and not sex affirming care for a reason.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 weeks ago

And we call it sex change surgery despite not changing your chromosomes (which is what 99.9% of the "biological sex" people refer to). If your point is the language is flawed, I agree. If your point is that the flawed language is accurate, I don't. What is sex? If your answer has anything that is modified by hormones then you agree that sex is much more complicated than a single binary, and biological sex is a misleading, oversimplified, and inaccurate term.

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