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[-] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Are you saying that scene was the first time that admiral ever met or heard of Darth Vader?

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

That's what the scene implies. The whole scene makes no sense after the backstory that the prequels added.

The idea of the scene is that we, the viewer, have no idea what the force is yet. Just like character who learns the hard way. Because this is the first Star Wars movie and they haven't even started calling it Episode 4 yet.

[-] oneofmany@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I consider Star Wars to be a movie that I have never seen for the "first time". I don't remember a time when I wasn't intimately familiar with every scene. I wish I could watch it now and not know what was going on.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It makes much more sense when you view Jedi/Sith as the trope of the warrior monk who has achieved enlightenment. They have gained mystical powers beyond mortal ken etc, but mostly they used it to hit people with laser swords and public knowledge could dismiss a lot of that as physical training and conditioning.

It's been a few years but I think Tarkin introduces Vader a few moments before the choke to the admiral (Motti is the name, BTW)

Even if he knew of Vader, knew of the force, he still didn't really believe in it. If not shown to someone it is incredibly unbelievable. He definitely didn't believe in the force being stronger than the death star, which was voiced and angered Darth Vader resulting in the choke.

Also, Motti was a pretty cool character. From the linked fandom page:

Whatever conclusions you ultimately draw about the incident taking place between myself and Lord Vader during yesterday morning's briefing, he was wrong, and trying to crush someone else's windpipe doesn't make you any less wrong, if you're wrong to begin with. Which he was. I do not concede the argument.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Iirc one of the canon comic book series focuses on what vader was doing between III and IV and he was mostly in sith training and special jedi hunting missions for most of the time until IV and had minimal contact with the military. I still need to read it and am going off remembering the tvtropes page and a youtube video so don't quote me on anything ever from now until the end of time.

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