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[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 63 points 3 weeks ago

Let's say Trump gets elected, and ten years from now, some kid asks you, "What did you do to prevent this?"

Are you going to tell them you just didn't care enough to bother?

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Let's say in 10 years, the choice is between a dem who wants 20 genocides and a republican who wants 21: will you still be a militant democrat?

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

That depends entirely on what the rest of their platform looks like. If the republican's platform resembles Trump, and we're still operating within a 2-party system, you can bet your ass I will, because there's more at stake than one issue.

Look, we have two options: Vote against Trump, or don't. That's it. And if you aren't voting for a viable candidate, which right now is Harris, and only Harris, you're not voting against Trump. Simple as that.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

To me, this just means there's no evil great enough that our politicians could commit that would make you start questioning the validity of our government and electoral process. This is the liberal idealism that leftists talk about.

Is this accurate? Is there any evil great enough that would compel you to start considering tearing it all down?

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

I know our electoral process is bullshit, and I believe our government is corrupt as hell.

I'm also a pragmatist. I can either work within the confines of the system we have to try and effect the least harm possible, or I can register a protest vote now in hopes that some time in the future it'll help fix things. I'm taking the first option.

If we manage to change the voting system to allow for third party votes without sabotaging our own self interests in the meantime, I'm all for it. If third party candidates want to run for lesser offices where they have a chance of being elected and have a chance of making a difference, I'm all for it. But voting for a third party candidate for president, or declining to vote as a protest maneuver, is simply the worst option. It's looking for a long-term solution to a very short-term problem, and I simply can't see any good argument for taking that approach.

Electing Trump right now is 'tearing it all down', but not in the way I want.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

ten years from now, some kid asks you

Ten years from now, a Palestinian child asks you, but they never existed, because their parents were killed.

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