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Democratic Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib defeated her Republican opponent in Michigan's 12th congressional district election on Tuesday, securing a fourth term as the only Palestinian-American woman in the US Congress.

The Associated Press called the race with just 18 percent of the votes counted.

Tlaib secured 77 percent of the vote, defeating the Republican Party's James Hooper who received just 19 percent of the vote.

Her victory comes amid the backdrop of Israel's war on Gaza, which has killed more than 43,000 Palestinians so far and has been diplomatically and militarily supported by the Biden-Harris administration for more than a year.

Tlaib has been a vocal critic of the war, calling for the US to withhold weapons from Israel. Her opposition to the war on Gaza and support for pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses have drawn harsh criticism from both Republicans and Democrats.

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[-] the_sisko@startrek.website 6 points 3 weeks ago

Florida's cannabis legalization ballot measure failed...

And thanks in part to Michigan voters, we have a president who will fuck over Gaza even more. Great success.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 weeks ago

And so the voter blaming begins.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The voters are absolutely responsible for putting Trump into power. Anyone who facilitated that is fully responsible for whatever happens over the next four years.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Democrats are responsible for winning over voters.

The voters they kicked out at the DNC to make room in their big tent for the Bush administration, AIPAC all their corporate donors.

Ask those donors why they did not vote for Harris hard enough. Or the Republicans she was wooing over with Liz Cheney.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't change what I said, though. Trump won because the average voter wants fascism.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Unless you are willing to criticize the Democrats they will not change this losing strategy. Admit they ran an awful campaign and push them to run on good policies next time.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I am willing to criticize the Democrats. There's a lot I would have done differently.

But Jesus himself could descend from heaven preaching love for mankind and the American people would still vote for Trump instead.

The average American voter wants fascism, it's as simple as that.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago

Comparing Kamala Harris to Jesus while she is facilitating a genocide... Really shows how much of a cult the Democratic party has become.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

motherfucker you voted for fascism as well

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 30 points 2 weeks ago

Why not blame Democrats for not meeting voters where they are?

[-] the_sisko@startrek.website -3 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, I do? Trump massively outperformed Harris in swing states, so clearly Harris's campaign wasn't able to meet swing state voters where they are. Literally, these were the only people who matter in the US election under the current rules (sadly). Of course Harris swung right, and of course it didn't work well enough, but not doing it would have been worse...

I hate politics as much as the next person, but god damn. Recognize the game is what it is, play it as necessary, and then move the needle where you can. Sheesh.

[-] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

"We didn't go far enough to the right" has been the excuse for decades and it continues to be bullshit. The people telling you the rules of the game are lying to you.

Leftist domestic policies don't win leftists, they win centrists, because those policies put money in the pockets of the working class. Improving Medicaid and food stamps, raising the minimum wage, UBI/federal job guarantees, building public housing, expanding unemployment, forgiving student loans, these all win lower and middle class votes.

Instead of any of this, Kamala and Biden said the economy is great.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 23 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe the ossue was Democrats trying to appeal to Republican voters, who would rather vote for Republicans and get everything they want instead of only some of what they want.

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[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago

Short of putting boots on the ground or dropping a nuke there is no way to "fuck over Gaza even more."

[-] the_sisko@startrek.website 14 points 3 weeks ago

The one thing I've learned from experience w/ Donald Trump is that he finds a way to make things worse.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's a very broad statement that I can't argue with because I have no intention to defend Donald Trump. Wiith that in mind I imagine anything he does to Gaza is just in line with what Biden or Harris would have also done but probably dumber. They had over a year to make us believe otherwise.

[-] the_sisko@startrek.website -3 points 2 weeks ago

So then the logic here is "vote for a candidate who is at least as bad for Gaza, but will also fuck up the rest of the world". Or "don't vote for the candidate who will be obviously less damaging for the rest of the world, even though my action won't help Gaza at all".

Even if you assume Harris would have been just as bad for Gaza... I mean it's patently clear that the only choice is to vote for the lesser of two evils and then raise hell that you need better policies from them.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

The collapse of America would be less damaging for the rest of the world than its continued existence.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago

The only potential silver lining is the end of the American Empire. They already pushed BRICS into dedollarisation, and another 4 years of Trump will hopefully cause the EU to finally go their own way too.

Then again, this was already going to happen anyway and I would've rather seen someone sane manage this decline instead of Trump.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Trump will accelerate so many collapsing elements of the empire. NATO is fucked lol

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Voting for a lesser evil is still being complicit in some degree of evil.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Things can always get worse.

Correct, even under Biden and Harris.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

The only hope Gaza ever had was the Axis of Resistance, no matter who won they were facing annihilation and forced displacement. North Gaza is the blueprint for the rest of the Strip. Only if Israel is defeated can Palestine be free.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Trump was declared a winner before Michigan had a called winner for president.

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