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Until the rule is removed, any new posts about US politics will be removed.

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[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Lemmy.sdf.org had a lot of federation issues until recently. They are also very FOSS oriented rather than generic

I don't even consider Beehaw a Lemmy instance anymore as they defederate LW and SJW

I should have probably said "generic US instance", with communities like AskUSA, CasualUS, this kind of things

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

In looking into why they defederated, it seems due to the poor implementation of moderation tools and the insistence of the largest instances on unregulated signups, which tend to allow trolls to easily evade blocks? Though from Kbin.social, StarTrek.website, Discuss.Online, and now PieFed.social, I have been able to see Beehaw the entire time iirc.:-)

Speaking as one myself, I think Americans tend not to be so proud of our country, especially lately. The enormous exception is ofc conservatives, who don't tend to come here.

Part of the reason might be the ginormous size of just thousands of miles separating coast to coast, and more besides to Alaska or Hawaii etc. And more than merely geography there are the cultural divides, between North vs. South, East vs. West, and Midwest, etc. Though none of those matter even half as much as rural vs. urban.

Liberals (urban) tend to feel part of a global community, while conservatives (rural) turn inwards and want to focus only on ourselves - at which point the liberals don't feel comfortable in such a space, as e.g. X provides. So while there are very good reasons to be, feeling "proud to be an American", especially on a day like today, seems ironically anti-American, if that makes any sense. But yeah, people definitely are going to want to bitch and moan about the election results - as we should - and ironically there too we will do so alongside our global compatriots, in a global community, and probably on an instance outside of the USA since as you said there isn't a large major one that seems all that suitable:-).

What about Lemmy.today? You'd want to check with them first ofc. They don't even have a blocklist at all though - not even the CSAM ones so I don't know how they do that. At a guess it may cause them problems to send so much traffic.

Or perhaps one of the PieFed or Mbin instances? They federate community content the same as any Lemmy instance I thought. Oh but the moderation aspect might make that prohibitive.

It could be really good to have some of those, like AskUSA where people ask what US State they should move to, to get away from lack of abortion care within their own location:-(. Though ironically an educated European may provide better answers than a confident-sounding American spouting off nonsense, as usual!:-)

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Though from Kbin.social, StarTrek.website, Discuss.Online, and now PieFed.social, I have been able to see Beehaw the entire time iirc.:-)

As you know, I'm not the biggest LW fan, but even I wouldn't use an account defederated from LW, especially with SJW on top. You're missing probably 80% of the active communities, and 15% of the remaining are on lemmy.ml

Part of the reason might be the ginormous size of just thousands of miles separating coast to coast, and more besides to Alaska or Hawaii etc.

Even with that, why is there no Californian or New York instance? Seems weird to me seen how populous and tech oriented those places are

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Theres a ton of lemmy servers in Cali, but just no official one. Its all just one offs (I support one).

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Oh yes absolutely, sorry I seemed to have skipped over saying that:-). Leaving behind sth like 80% of the userbase isn't an ideal plan, plus they don't even want growth over there, and are quite prickly about what they allow or not.

I saw comments advocating for the literal genocide of all people in the USA who did not vote, which far from being received negatively had tens of upvotes, yet did not trigger the mods for reasons of "be nice"? So I suppose to be there, outside of the established "in-crowd", a new user would have just a terrible time trying to figure out what they want vs. not.

So I definitely get why you would not want to host it there:-). I was just responding to why you didn't even consider it "Lemmy" - it at least halfway is not indeed, with its version so far behind and such, even though I can see those users as they comment on posts throughout the Fediverse (but not in communities on LW ofc:-).

For some reason I was thinking that were was a NY instance that I had considered. Perhaps Discuss.Online? But it's harder (for me) to use that map as it shows all the 1-person instances, and the much larger ones don't seem distinguished. So I ended up looking through all of them top instances one by one, and then went with Discuss.Online, though am not certain that I am remembering correctly about it being the one I saw that was in NY, vs. some other one.

Though how many other servers do we need to do that for? Would it matter if one was in West vs. East Germany, or France? (Spain might bc of Catalina:-P) Those distances in the USA are quite large though.

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