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[-] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

Can't seem to get them from Democrats, either, so what's your point?

[-] zarp86@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago

The point is that if you have one party that won't legalize weed and won't criminalize abortion at the federal level, and you have another party that won't legalize weed but will criminalize abortion at the federal level, the first party is better. Now apply this to other issues. Families will be forcibly separated when Trump begins his mass deportation, Bird Flu will be COVID 2.0 when RFK is in Trump's cabinet, etc.

Everyone on .world and .ml is focused on what the Dems haven't done or won't do. Ok, put that aside for a second. Do you think that Trump is going to put into place any of the policies listed above? Do you think he will be a better president than Kamala Harris would have been?

If the answer to both questions is "no," I truly don't understand the logic in complaining about what Dems didn't do in the last four years. Not voting for Harris because she wasn't left enough is cutting off your nose to spite your own face. The country will be far worse under Trump.

If you answer "yes" to either, then we are too far apart to have any meaningful conversations.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Dude, the election is over. The only thing we can do moving forward is try to learn a lesson. Blaming other people isn't a solution. We can only try to do better next time, which requires confronting what we could do better, not what others did wrong. We have no control over that.

If your only solution is that everything is other people's fault, you're not being constructive. You're only angry and lashing out, which is understandable but keep that to places that's wanted ideally. You're pretty deep in a thread trying to solve problems, not just blame others.

[-] zarp86@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 weeks ago

Mate, if you think anything I've said is "angry and lashing out," I don't know what to tell you. I'm frustrated sure, but wasn't the one who started to dole out blame. The original comment I responded to was blaming Dems lol.

Still interested in if you think the country will be better under Trump than under Harris.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

The Democrats are the ones who we are supporting here. They can only do better through constructive criticism. They won't do better by just blaming their failings on Trump supporters (or non-Harris supporters).

No one here is saying things will be better under Trump. They're pointing out why the democratic message failed, so hopefully we can understand why it didn't work and do better in 2/4 years.

Blaming other people doesn't create actionable observations. It's only a cop-out to not recognize your failings. Sure, it sucks, but it can't be fixed. Giving people a reason to vote for Democrats can be fixed.

this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
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