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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The rest of the world does without GIANT and dangerous emergency vehicles for one. They still put out fires and transport sick people. How american fire departments are getting people killed (video from "not just bikes")

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 week ago

The rest of the world does without GIANT and dangerous emergency vehicles for one.

Could you show me those small and safe emergency vehicles that are used outside the USA? Because I'm outside the USA, I literally live near a firefighter station, and they're all probably as big as US vehicles.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Literally the video i shared explains everything down to the metrics? Why are you sealioning on the specific post that has your answer?

And also because someone else discussed german firetrucks I know the sizes. German fire trucks are almost a full meter less wide than US ones. A german firetruck is only half a meter wider than a ford f450

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

The video is half an hour long and I really don't feel like watching it all to find out something that could be said in one or two paragraphs of text, so I ignored it at first. As I expected, the video deals with a bunch of more or less relevant topics that you or OP didn't mention at all. It actually is a bit interesting, I've watched a part of it, and I do have to admit that US fire trucks are bigger than those where I live. The problem is that their deadliness is a consequence of several other factors, and only indirectly of their size. What you and OP decided not to do is to communicate that point with any nuance, and all that I could read from your comments is that, by some logic, getting hit by a 10-metre truck is much safer than getting hit by a 15-metre truck. OP complained about the driver "right-hooking" the cyclist, you just said the trucks are too big, do I really have to watch a half an hour video to understand why your comments don't sound nonsensical?

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I appreciate you digging in and trying to get what I was saying. Bit of a nightmare here to keep up with which arguments ive made in the thread above the reply, as people ask the same things over and over.

I did say that firetrucks have a huge say in what kind of infrastructure can be built, and how big it's allowed to be. Segregated bikes lanes for example are mostly forbidden by firedepts who can't reach them with their massive trucks. There are no right hooks on segregated bike lanes.

I get your point though, apologies!

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