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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 3 days ago

So hiding it and not telling kids about it is a solution, which makes them curious, and then go eat overboard. Which is what I did.

What is much better is what Europeans do, where they have a much healthier view of alcohol, grow up around it, know what it is and does, and don't have nearly the unhealthy binging Americans do. On top of that they also aren't having an opioid crisis.

[+] Saleh@feddit.org -12 points 3 days ago

So did you also do other hard drugs because they were hidden from you? Heroin, Coke, Crack, Meth?

The opiod crisis has an entirely different basis to them, as tons of Americans were made addicted by reckless prescriptions first.

And again, seeing my and other parents drink regularly did not stop us from being reckless around alcohol. Instead what it does makes clear signs of alcoholism not be taken as warning. "Dad had two beers every day, whats the harm in three?"

There is things the US does badly, like not allowing alcohol until 21 and then giving access to vodka and beer alike, where many European countries have different ages for booze and lower strength alcohol. But the idea that people in Europe are more responsible around alcohol doesn't hold to reality. The US had about 120k alcohol related deaths per year, which jumped to 180k with the pandemic. Germany is at a stable 60-70k a year. But Germany has less than one fourth of the US population.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 3 days ago

Got it, so alcohol and hard drugs are different and we shouldn't directly compare them like that

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What are you even talking about? The per capita death rates differ from what you're posting (making up?) here. According to data from the World Health Organization (WHO), the death rate from alcohol use disorders in Germany is 9.2 per 100,000 population, whereas in the United States, it is 14.3 per 100,000 population. That's a substantial difference. Are you a recovering alcoholic or lose someone to alcohol or something? It's fine that you are against alcohol, but you're making false comparisons and citing false data to do so.