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"Israel’s far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has ordered preparations for the annexation of the occupied West Bank ahead of US President-elect Donald Trump taking office in January 2025."

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[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago

Yes, there's a trolley problem and it seems pretty clear you picked the lane that ends up killing every single Palestinian.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I voted for Kamala, but be honest. The only difference between Kamala and Trump in terms of Palestine is that Trump supports a fast overt genocide, while Kamala supports a slow and quiet genocide. Neither of them care two shits if every last Palestinian is exterminated. Kamala just wants the genocide to be slow and quiet enough that she doesn't have to answer awkward questions about it.

[-] clgoh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Harris: "I will do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza, to bring home the hostages, end the suffering in Gaza, ensure Israel is secure, and ensure the Palestinian people can realise their right to dignity, freedom, security and self-determination"

Doesn't sound like a genocide to me, slow or otherwise.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Vague bullshit platitudes. That's all she offered.

What you quoted is indistinguishable for saying, "I want all the good things for both Israelis and Palestinians! I like good things. I don't like bad things."

Zero acknowledgement about the hard choices involved.

She says she'll do "everything in her power," but we know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that she is lying.

Will she make US offensive aid contingent on a cease fire?

Will she make US defensive aid contingent on a cease fire?

Will she support US military aid contingent on Israel ending its ethnic-cleansing-by-zoning code in the West Bank?

Will she support slapping sanctions on Israeli leaders who support genocide and ethnic cleansing?

Will she agree to not interfere with the attempts to prosecute Israeli officials at the International Criminal Court?

Will she make long-term support of Israel contingent on the establishment of a two-state solution?

She cares for the Palestinians, but only if she doesn't have to life a finger for them.

Kamala is to the right of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush when it comes to actually reigning in Israeli excesses.

Again, Kamala supports a SLOW GENOCIDE. She doesn't mind genocide. She isn't willing to lift a finger to restrict it. Her only concern at all for the matter is that it might hurt her at the polls, so she opposes the kind of overt ethnic cleansing that Trump supports. Trump supports putting a line of tanks on the east side of the Gaza Strip and just driving forward until the entire Gazan population is forced into the sea. That's the kind of overt genocide Trump supports.

But in practice, Kamala is little different. I voted for Kamala, but I did so reluctantly. She says she opposes genocide, but those are meaningless words not backed by actual practice. Actions matter, words don't. And by her actions, it is clear she and Biden support genocide. They just want it done quietly.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Well, now we won't have Harris. So I guess that's moot.

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