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Marco Rubio says he is against Gaza ceasefire
(www.telegraph.co.uk)
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All the people who were screeching to abandon Harris because of Gaza seem awfully quiet now
The difference here isn't in policy but in honesty.
Anticolonialist turned into a puff of smoke immediately after the election.
I'm pretty sure they were just banned. This place has become somewhat of a lib echo chamber.
Gosh but I heard that all genocide is equal and Biden is literally the devil. Do you mean that having a meaningful impact on whether Palestinians live or die was worth swallowing my pride and voting for Harris? But isn't my ideal that no Palestinian should die more important than actually saving the lives of Palestinians?
/s I absolutely can't fucking stand people who were unable to realize that less harm would, in fact, be less harmful.
You say "unable to realize", I say "intentionally pushed a false narrative to increase voter apathy".
Especially since many of them refused to engage any discussion on how much worse Trump would be.
I have a feeling a lot of them were not American. The bot farms are quiet now because they got what they wanted.
or they don’t want to post on this echo chamber of rich privileged neolibs who enabled a genocide to happen, mocked col and got fascist selected by being toxic to anyone not slurping up dnc bs on everything ?
what happened to crook biden’s one term promise ? he did nothing on row vs jade to use it for reelection campaign, he did nothing to control inflation as he needed the superpacs dough for campaign fund ? he farted bs on gaza again and again ? did he even said a word after 30 day ultimatum when israel continues blocking food and vaccines for kids while setting hospitals on fire ? and now after election he is jerking off together with trump on fooling us with this farce.
dnc know they will one of the two choices becoz of spineless cks like you who will be happy to vote for promises of scraps.
one would think that maybe with all the sucking up here like reddit was just bots given how the elections turned out but content here is too stupid for today llm’s
and just like maga trash you can only talk shit behind keyboard. people in nyc are so angry at dnc rn that you will be lucky to not get punched saying any of the heavily voted snobbery here.
If Gaza is completely and utterly annihilated in the next four years, it will be the fault of dipshits like you. Not me.
Too bad the actual fascist Americans who elected Trump are still with you. It's always someone else's fault not America's.
Or they are just quiet because they realize they've placed Gaza into the hands of Netanyahu's allies in the US and there's literally no way to defend this outcome.
I sort of get it. I voted Stein in 2016 because I don't like how the DNC handled Bernie. But i was willing to accept 4-8 years under a Republican being a potential outcome. (Not like we can't vote them out if things get real bad .... right? RIGHT?
Accepting the utter destruction of Gaza as a potential outcome in order to protest the destruction of Gaza is not something I can really grasp.
You don't remember this guy?
"They" didn't. All of America did. I still don't understand how anyone thinks Gaza had anything with Harris's loss. I very much doubt the 10 million non/protest voters all didn't vote for Harris because of Gaza, or that there are even 10 million people in the US that care about Gaza enough to accept another Trump term.
Not attempting to assign blame. But we all have to live with the reality of our choices now.
All the russian trolls? They've moved on. The America job is completed.
For those uninformed link to that R site
Well it's not like Biden/Harris actually tried for a ceasefire. There's really not much change other than the quiet part being said out loud.
Not much change yet… like I said in another thread, let’s just save this comment and revisit it in 2025, shall we?
The escalations we're going to see over the coming months were going to happen with a Republican as President or Democrat. The past 13 months has shown Israel can get away with virtually whatever they want. They were never intending on stopping regardless of the outcome of the election.
Yeah that cease fire Biden negotiated was way better!
Oh, wait.
Don’t try to pop their cope bubble.
Are they? I see the comments still full of them.
I mean what's there to say? Yeah we know Trump fucking sucks what do you want them to do? There's barely anything to say when he hasn't done anything ywt.
He already said he's giving Israel a blank cheque. Not sure how that's "nothing"
Okay that's fair I didn't know that, but still the only thing that can be said about that is "Trump bad", which we all already know.
Nah, they're clamoring for Biden to hurry up and stop shipment of arms to Israel and get the ceasefire some before Trump gets into office. Too little to late guys, Israel won't care, won't do shit now that they know trump won.
We’ve been clamoring for it since Biden first bypassed congress to directly send them weapons and money after October.
Israel has never cared so far and gotten away with everything, so nothing has changed there.
You just keep thinking that both sides are bad even when one party, despite its flaws, tried to push for peace and the other side publicly expressed genocide is the preferred solution.
Good luck on the upcoming year in affecting change!
The Democratic Party preferred to lose to a fascist over taking the election seriously and pushing for peace. Biden, who is a Christian Zionist, continues to send billions worth of weapons unconditionally, nothing about withholding military weapons to reign Israel in to a permanent ceasefire. Harris didn't break from Biden on policy at all, ran on unwaivering support for Israel, ignored Palestinian victims and all the Americans that has directly affected, and campaigned instead on the most lethal Military in the world with Liz Cheney. It would've taken more policy changes than just on Israel to win the popular vote, but just that one policy change would've made them far more likely to win the swing states and electorial college
Imagine believing that genocide joe has been pushing for peace.
That and Israel doesn't NEED our weapons to keep doing what they're doing, they never have.
Cutting them off only makes them weaker should they be attacked by Iran and does nothing to stop the genocide.
Well maybe on opposite day.
I mean, it's only happened a couple of times already...
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3923123/us-assets-in-mediterranean-again-helped-defend-israel-against-iranian-missiles/
Uh... Seriously look up what political scientists have to say about this. Israel uses too much, well, everything compared to what they can produce themselves.
And how is that a bad thing? Israel wouldn't be able to do this shit if the US wasn't protecting it from its neighbors.
Israel is, depending on who's counting, between the 8th and 10th largest weapons dealer in the world
https://globelynews.com/world/world-top-arms-exporting-countries/amp/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-the-leadings-exporters-of-conventional-weapons/
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-share-global-arms-exports-2022/
They don't need our help executing a people they have spent decades marginalizing.
Okay, so if they need it, don’t provide it, don’t be complacent in genocide.
The lengths people will go to defend the US for Israel is insane.
Oh, we should have stopped providing aid to Israel decades ago, but that won't stop the genocide.
That’s pretty much the best way to get them to stop, let them face repercussions. So you’ve already proven that point false.
Except what happens then is the radical pro-Israel lobby then attacks anyone and everyone involved in that decision, actively making things worse here.
See:
https://apnews.com/article/squad-aipac-progressives-congress-cori-bush-0de0a96929368db72145b033261415ca
Then the right move would've been to change on the position just before voting began so AIPAC wouldn't have the time to respond with attack ads. It took AIPAC eight months and 25 million to unseat two anti-genocide representatives
and we should reward them for interfering in our elections instead of jailing them ? do you know what happened the last time world tried to appease genocidal right wing lunatics ?
That guy is already beating his wife, if I stop giving him hammers to do it with, that other guy that's pissed off about it all might do something bad
It was all too predictable.
Donvict is in the pocket of the magaforbrainz that think Jews have to be in Israel to bring about the sick fantasy from their book club. Even if he doesn't actually believe in xtianity at all...