Is it currently possible to completely self-host ATProto and interact with BlueSky users? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 days ago by Zak@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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I don't actually want to do this right now, but I do want to know if it's really decentralized yet. Completely looks like it means each of:

A client ✅
A personal data server ✅
A relay ❓
Labelers ✅
Feed generators ✅

It looks like the relay might be the bottleneck. If I'm understanding the protocol correctly, a relay could consume less than the whole network so it doesn't have to be ridiculously expensive to operate, but I'm not finding examples of people doing it.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 2 days ago

ive been asking about this for a long time. ive yet to be presented with a non-bluesky controlled relay instance. this is a lynch-pin of the protocol and prevents true federation.

happy to be proven wrong someday, but bluesky is just twitter with user-contolled nodes. they can decide to remove nodes at their whim.