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First of all, let's try to avoid American-bashing, and stay respectful to everyone.

I'll start: for me it's the tipping culture. Especially nowadays, with the recent post on !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world with the 40% tip, it just seems so weird to me to have to pay extra just so that menu prices can stay low.

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[-] guazzabuglio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's a double-edged sword. You can definitely get yourself in trouble if you act like a credit card is magic money. On the other hand, my last vacation was paid for almost entirely with credit card points.

[-] philpo@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

Which is basically your consumer data ..

[-] guazzabuglio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that's not lost on me either. Part of the double-edged sword I suppose. On the plus side it helps me build credit because I pay it off every month and it grants me certain luxuries from time to time that I wouldn't normally be able to afford.

[-] dot20@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

But isn't the whole concept of having to 'build credit' insane? In the Netherlands we don't have that

[-] DarkShaggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How else would you know a person's credit worthiness when you are being asked to lend them a million dollars? What would you use instead?

[-] dot20@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you have any outstanding debts, that's recorded in a registry (BKR), so the banks won't give you a loan (you won't even be able to buy a phone on credit).

If you have no outstanding debts, you are not registered at BKR, so the banks will give you a loan according to their internal formulas (e.g. if you don't have a high salary you won't get a €1 million loan, but you might be able to get a €300.000 one).

So I guess it's like a negative credit system: if you're not credit-worthy, lenders will know (due to being BKR-registered), and otherwise you're assumed to be credit-worthy (in accordance to your salary).

[-] Syndic@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

If we want to buy a house for example? A copy of your registry of fines where you get an entry for not paying an invoice or such, your income and your savings are taking into consideration over here.

[-] guazzabuglio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Of course it's insane. Unfortunately it's not exclusively a US issue.

[-] PrincipalKohoutek@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On the other hand, my last vacation was paid for almost entirely with credit card points.

Or, in other words, by people who are less wealthy than you.

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