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submitted 3 weeks ago by SanctimoniousApe to c/usa@lemmy.ml

It blows my mind that there are no legal blocks in place to prevent this (yeah, I know it's because this shit was so unthinkable that nobody prepared for it). This yahoo is on a mission to destroy EVERYTHING America was supposed to stand for. SOMETHING has to be done to stop this shit!

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[-] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 24 points 3 weeks ago

Trump keeps using the term "deep state" to refer to anyone that stands in his way, however it should be noted that the term typically refers to a shadow government whose purpose is to enrich or increase the power of its members. So it's rather ironic to be used derogatively by someone whose primary goal is using the government to enrich and increase the power of himself and anyone who sucks up to him.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

Trump claims to want to clear the swamp when he is the swamp. Trump & Musk claim to want to fight the the deep state when they are the deep state. The Oligarchs are in charge, and they always have been.

There actually is a deep state, it’s just nothing like what the far right imagines. Jeffrey Sachs and Aaron Good Discuss ‘American Exception: Empire and the Deep State’

[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's not irony, it's projection.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

The deep state is just the bureaucracy, it spans administrations via careerists and institutions (as in just literally being important in a department). It is not inherently good or bad when decontextualized, but because the US is an empire premised on others' disposession, it tends to mean that disposession is done very effectively regardless of who might technically be in power.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

There is no deep state shut up.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

There are no government employees spanning administrations that keep agendas going?

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

That’s just the state and the states employees civil servants. You’ve made a new definition and claimed something exists because you’ve subverted the meaning.

Politicians don’t, and never have run government. That’s not their job. The job of a politician is to decide legislation and policy of the state. This is carried out by civil servants.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

The deep state is made entirely of state employees and civil servants, exactly. The only distinction made is that the deep state bureaucracy can run its own agendas, even against elected executive leadership. Can you think of any departments or agencies that have exhibited such behavior?

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