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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Everyone born on US soil is, by law, a US citizen. If you are within US territory, you are subject to US jurisdiction. That’s how jurisdiction works in every country on earth. The 14th Amendment does not carve out exceptions. You can be born here, and raised elsewhere, and still a US citizen. You remember wrong, and it is as cut and dried as it seems.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fascists used Ignore Civil Rights

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Constitution doesn’t regard civil rights.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Try knowing what words mean before you use them.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Constitution restricts the power of the government. In this case, the 14th Amendment was created to restrict the power of the Supreme Court, which had already ruled that former slaves were not US citizens.

Don’t lecture me about knowing what words mean, when you don’t even know why the 14th Amendment exists.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

God, dumb people are the worst. Some fuckers can't even Google.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to rebut basic fact, reality is not a debate.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Scott vs Sandford decision led directly to the 13th and 14th amendment which overruled that same decision.

The due process clause of the 14th amendment prohibited local governments of depriving citizens from life, liberty or property without a due process.

So yeah, 14th amendment does restrict the government, and has been made to overrule the Scott vs Sandford Supreme Court ruling.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey.

Morons.

Look up the words you're using.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's the saying ? "Don't argue with stupid people, they will bring you down to their level and win with experience".

Applies here. No arguments, just personal attacks.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Not every country gives citizenship to people born there.

There are two basic models:

  • citizenship by soil
  • citizenship by blood

In some countries you can be a 3rd or 4th generation resident but not have citizenship if none of your ancestors had citizenship.

In other countries you can be a citizen even if neither you nor any of your parents or grandparents actually lived in the country, but you have an ancestor who did.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, but I didn’t say that’s how citizenship works in every country.