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In fairness, Mount Doom has multiple different names. Source: Finished the Silmarillion for the first time last night. :)
Orodruin, Amon Amarth, Mount Doom.
Yeah, it's like The Grand Canyon has a bunch of other names, but the one we stuck with is just: "The grand canyon. You know which one I'm talking about." Sometimes the boring but obvious name works. It's more believable that the people in this world renamed stuff to something obvious.
I used to parrot the "created multiple languages, named the place Mount Doom" meme up until I started getting deeper into Tolkien lore. Now I'm the obnoxious one that points out all the other names for Mount Doom, as well as translating other "cooler" names to show that they're all similarly named (my favorite being Khazad Dum, or "Dwarf Hall", followed by Cirith Ungol, or "Spider Cleft").
This is also fairly common in real life, for example, this map of Japan with the Prefectures translated to English.
I think this is the same in pretty much every country (well, once you add in people's names, like Jacksonville or Virginia), but it's a little more difficult to find because you have to use an etymology dictionary instead of just looking up the meaning of Chinese characters in a regular dictionary of that language because they're are still in current use.
For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom_county_name_etymologies?wprov=sfla1
I want to go to How Good? now to find out.
On my way to Capital City.
Got to stop at How? Good on the way
"can you fetch the fork lift? I need to get a palette of troops from the army warehouse"
...yeah, i'd rock thousand leaves...
still hill huh, sounds dangerous
Nourishing joy sounds like a pleasant place.
Which is pronounced with the second word as "doom" still so you know that's the only good name he had in his mind
Mount Doom is also where the band Amon Amarth got their name from which is funny because they don't have any songs with Tolkienian fantasy and they're not really even huge Tolkien fans. It just sounded cool
TIL. I had imagined it'd be something of Vikingish.
Oh, just the usual kind. :)
NGL, it's a tough read, but I figured out why...
There's really no dialog. There are characters doing things, but it's all distanced, like seeing things happening from 10,000 feet up instead of being in the same room.
Here's the other problem... He repeats himself.
So the book starts with the creation myth, the Gods creating the world with a song.
Then he tells it again, with a little more detail.
Then he tells it again with more detail about the various gods, who does what, divisions of labor and so on.
That happens over and over through the book... Ok, here are the elves. Next chapter. Elves get divided into multiple groups. Next chapter. Elvish family trees.
You have to get through all that before anything significant happens.
Isn't that because the book is basically a collection of notes roughly edited together?
Pretty much.
Reminds a bit of the beginning of the Fellowship of the Ring to be honest. That start is slooow
Now imagine that with no dialog.
Yeah, I think it's all very interesting, but I'll stick to watching videos on the topics or reading wiki pages. I'll let someone else reorganize it into a package actually meant for consumption.
Yeah, I'm glad I did it, but your average wiki is more readable.