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Entire police department in Minnesota resigns
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Part of the reason we have issues with the police force and their policing is that they aren’t treated like professionals and held to professional standards. We need to pay them like the professionals too, even if that means we hire less.
If we demand higher police pay, we better be raising EMT, social work, and teacher salaries too.
And yes, I know this is whataboutism, but it feels wrong to fund police while some of the support system workers that prevent crime in the first place would be thrilled to be making the hourly rate these cops were.
The posted article complains they were offering $22/hr when similar towns are offering $30/hr. Here’s another article (from 3 years ago) that ranks average police salary in Minnesota as pretty high, just behind Massachusetts, which has a much higher cost of living. seems reasonable to complain is pay much lower than state average or typical of their peers
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2020/04/23/police-officer-salary-state/?sh=72e0096b2010
Oh, I definitely think we need to raise those too. These systems are all needed and aren’t attracting the minds they should because we aren’t paying them.
Police make hundreds of thousands of dollars with overtime in many places even low level officers.
Source? Is this really a common enough thing, or just an edge case? How much overtime is required? What about the $20-something/hour mentioned in the article?
This is a problem in Massachusetts, because we require officers for every road construction project, instead of flaggers, but I also thought this was an exception
The real problem in Massachusetts is that the Staties were getting paid OT for traffic details when they were actually asleep in bed.
unfortunately same with politicians
Politicians should have the same income as they did before becominh politicians
This means they to get out and get a real job before going into politics. Seeing how things work.preventing dumb career politicians from having no clue how people live.
A lot of them come from money'd backgrounds. Would be easy to just get hired on a high salary from their own company or a family members company. Heck companies could use that to lobby even harder. Hire them on for a year at super high rate and then they get them in politics.
Or maybe the income for politicians should be on-par with any other civil servant. Post workers, trash collection truck drivers, state court clerks, natural park management, it's all civil services.
They argue that being a politician requires having tons of connections and being a "people-person," but that's only because they've made it that way over the past 50 or so years. There's nothing about being a politician that is so essentially different than any other way to serve a government or to help a government serve its people.
Politicians should have their assets placed in a trust for the duration of their term, to encourage them to not run repeated terms. Then the politician should have to live on the median income for their district - to encourage them to improve the entire district and not just their own interests.