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[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 73 points 1 year ago

At this point I would consider a return-to-office mandate at my job to be a massive pay cut. It'd be the equivalent to spending an extra 2-3 hours a day working (because that's what the total commute would be), plus money on vehicle upkeep. If they weren't willing to couple it with a ~40% raise, or with letting me reduce my hours worked by 10-15 per week to compensate for the commute time, I'd quit before the change in policy went into effect, no question.

But people still overwhelmingly prefer at least a few days per week at home, arguing that physical office presence is more trouble than it’s worth and is rarely necessary to complete a task.

If that required data and research to realize, they're simply out of touch or stupid. More likely this is just an excuse for not realizing they couldn't bully people as effectively as they'd hoped.

[-] TheHalc@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

It'd be the equivalent to spending an extra 2-3 hours a day working (because that's what the total commute would be), plus money on vehicle upkeep

Maybe this is one of the reasons I actually prefer going to the office. For me, it's only 15 minutes by metro.

No additional cost, very little wasted/lost time, and I actually enjoy being able to draw a line between work and life by putting them in different physical spaces.

Perhaps it also helps that my managers encourage people to work from wherever they feel they're the most productive. It's nice to know that I have the option to work from home without having to explain myself.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago

what WFH has really brought to light is how miserable car-dependency and suburban sprawl is.

The problem isn't going to work, the problem is that for most people going to work entails needing to drive a car for an hour, and it's actually insane that people have just blithely accepted that until now.

[-] Kichae@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Nah, being at work was driving me towards a nervous breakdown. Open office + management that liked to just drop in at my desk uninvited and without a heads up had me an absolute wreck.

I did not handle the panopiticon well.

You could place me next door to the office, and it would have been the same.

[-] TheHalc@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like your issue is a shitty workplace and shitty managers more than it is not not working from home.

[-] Kichae@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

My issue is working around people.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

All issues, ultimately, stem from people.

[-] TheHalc@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

This is what I was thinking. I'm very lucky to live somewhere where I can live without a car - even here in Helsinki, that's not always possible.

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