A long gun is not good for home defense. A pistol is much better in CQC. Also a shotgun does require much less aiming in a high stress situation. You're just being silly.

A 16" barrel AR is going to be much easier for someone with very little experience in CQC using than a damn shotgun or a handgun. They're not fucking marines...

Also birdshot is not a slug.

Never said it was. Literally said it's basically a slug at 10' in a home. Shit is not fanning out to a huge wall of pellets like the comment basically says.

Those are literally two different things. That's two different kinds of ammo, what are you talking about. A slug has way more mass, which is a hug factor in penetration. Wtf is this nonsense.

Please re-read what I said...no where did I state it was a slug.

Source: bored out of my mind in the UMSC stained at 29 Palms and did Mohave Viper combat training stuff a ton. Try to clear a tight building with an AR and you realize how easy it is to just grab a barrel as you try to clear a room.

Cool, no one is fucking clearing their damn homes like they're in Iraq...

They didn't teach you not to flag your barrel at the corners? Or you were using an M16 instead of an M4?

And at 10 meters you're going to get about a 5 inch spread on that birdshot. At 3 meters (a standard 10x10 foot room) you're looking at about 1.5 inch spread. At 1.5 inches it's absolutely going to say hello to the next room over. Granted, an honest to god slug is going to go through the next 5 rooms at least.

Pistols are nice but actually require more training because people hold them wrong, sight them wrong, and reset them wrong, whereas a rifle or shotgun is a lot more intuitive as long as your target is reasonably close.

The conclusion is obvious. The best home defense weapon is a claymore mine rigged to your front and back doors with a poorly executed wire that taps a battery. Hopefully it only does it when the door opens. No worries about neighbors or missing the bad guy.

Source - Combat Infantry Badge, circa 2003 and way too much time being told I couldn't do things I thought were perfectly reasonable.

I have nothing to add besides the fact that I have been cut off by a USMC van in Morongo valley, they took me putting petal to the metal to get past them as a challenge. They money clutched.

Anyways 29 Palms is quite nice this time of year, I have to drive out to Joshua tree and the surrounding area for deliveries.