I wouldnt be surprised if the US ends up with sanctuary ports where the tariffs are just hand waved by the state.

Yeah, this is one of those cases where it very much was a standard of its times. Even in societies that were generally egalitarian ya saw it since well as you stated infant mortality was real fucken high and giving birth wasvery dangerous.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I live in an area with veterans and its a bit more of a mixed bag. Most of them are dissolutioned with the system, its not that they dont have political leanings they just hate both. The ones who are politically active are usually lowd and dumb as fuck Republicans, the JD Vance type. The few I met who were commissioned officers were fucking feral and had nothing good to say about the right.

Remember the split in the veterans will be based broadly on education similar to the general public. And frankly speaking the actual folks at the Pentagon are pretty well educated.

Also I will happily admit that this is me hoping for a somewhat workable scenario. Im Californian which means I am in the perfectly cooked chicken zone of this soon to be nuclear blast, watching a bunch of mush brained dipshits play with the nuke. I practically cant do fuck all.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

Luckily the chain of command helps dilute the worst of this type of effect. As I understand it most orders will have to go through the folks at the Pentagon first and they could very well just say no or otherwise pull some malicious compliance.

Reminder the military has a more or less parallel system to the civil system. Its entirely possible they may just decide to separate themselves more or less.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

Honestly fhe worst that can happen is the engine decides its in fact a fire pit. Otherwise it will just be a boring ass breakdown, transmission failure is pretty common in military vehicles as a general rule. Reminder the US military is a logistics network with an army meaning that just cause they can keep a vehicle running doesnt mean even the oversized budget of LAPD can.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works -2 points 18 hours ago

Honestly a good amount of that shit is of questionable function, reminder most of the good shit is going to the national guard first. The police are at best using old ass NVG and optics, maybe they have a functional IFV but itll be of questionable maintenance. My local police department gave up and just has the Sheriff department do anything that requires more than a rifle, mostly cause the mechanics refused to work on the humvee they got.

Also the police arent exactly trained for an actual resistance movement, itll be likely a more embarrassing version of the union and county wars.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago

Unironically yes.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Pragmatism and utilitarianism say yes, in the same way it is morally okay to kill a Nazi without just cause.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 25 points 21 hours ago

Well luckily the military has a good chance of not listening to him, atleast in my opinion. The police on the other hand are more of a threat, though not an insurmountable one.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

Its exactly that its basically a bloodsport, mix that in witb propaganda and ya get something truly horrifying. Frankly speaking this is why I am in favor of making politics print only, makes it aggressively more boring.

Though slight joking aside, most people seem to be utter shit at resisting propaganda. They may be completely normal but they listen to say talk radio (My grandmother listens to KFI AM 640, which I only remember because I listen to some of their midnight programs sometimes) or their favorite podcaster. Then they take what they hear at face value no criticism whatsoever resulting in the single dumbest sport around, politics.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 82 points 23 hours ago

Historically speaking people have two things they riot for, safety and comfort. How that comfort manifest varies but pornography is definitely on the same level as whiskey, and the United states has had a rebellion on that.

Theres plenty of ways to hold him accountable, they just all happen to be fatal.

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