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"Homeless" is a lie
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this post was submitted on 24 Dec 2024
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How would they end homelessness with 20b? I doubt that's even remotely true
Just buy every homeless person a sandwich, duh.
Oh, sorry, i thought we were talking about ending world hunger.
I don't think we'll ever really end homelessness, but we could absolutely get close if the money we spend on all these piecemeal measures was put to better use. No idea what the total spent is (probably more than that) but we're basically dumping tons of money into half measures that only really help a handful of people. Supportive housing works for a much larger percentage of people experiencing homelessness, but no one wants to fund it because they hate the idea of giving someone housing without requiring something of them first. If Americans could get past the attitude of, "if I had to suffer, so should everyone else," we'd all be a lot better off.
https://www.globalgiving.org/learn/how-much-would-it-cost-to-end-homelessness-in-america/
I may have missed it when I was skimming the article, but I didn't see any stats to back up the $20b figure. They threw out a lot of stats on homelessness, but not a plan to end homelessness on a $20b budget.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/27/facebook-posts/no-consensus-cost-ending-homelessness-us-or-haltin/
It is in fact not remotely true. You're being downvoted by gullible fools who will believe anything that helps keep their rage boner going, no matter how ridiculous.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/27/facebook-posts/no-consensus-cost-ending-homelessness-us-or-haltin/
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.
The point of the tweet is to show the egregious "take" of Elon Musk has while leeching on society and being a raging drug abuser himself while being a nazi-loving piece of shit that got rich off of daddy's apartheid emeralds on top of that. Doesn't matter if it costed $20bn or $200bn, Musk still has more.
I'm not saying Kyle was necessarily lying about the dollar value, but you can make that point without using a number people will call bullshit on. It would probably be a better too. Also, if people used his post as the start of a discussion of homelessness I'm sure Kyle would have achieved his goal.
It costs more than he has, so yes, it does matter. Even the bogus $20b figure was an ANNUAL figure, not one-time.
You have no sense of perspective of the monumental costs of solving problems like these. It is far beyond the means of even the wealthiest individual on the planet.
Did you know the US spends over $1 trillion (with a T) every year on welfare programs? And that's without 'solving' anything, just trying to treat symptoms.
Get a clue.
Being poor demands paying interest, who would have thought. According to the report to congress, 3.6% of citizens receive more than half of their income through welfare. The US has about 340 million citizens, so that's about 12.5million. If you distributed 200bn of Musk's wealth among them, that'd be 16k for each one. Pretty sure that would save more money than blowing trillions each year.
When they say that, the word "welfare" does not mean cash assistance to individuals based on means-tested criteria, it means "public welfare programs." In fact, 80% of that "$1 T" is Medicaid. https://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiatives/state-and-local-finance-initiative/state-and-local-backgrounders/public-welfare-expenditures
Don't muddy his strong opinion with facts, please.
I think you are confused how much 20 billion is. That could pay rent for our entire homeless population and feed them for 20 years. I would agree this may not actually solve the problem but housing first is a proven effective strategy.