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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago

Interesting all this WP news I'm hearing today. Last week I downloaded the entirety of Wikipedia. Anyone can do it, the base archive (no pictures) is only about 25G, although the torrent is slow AF, took me... almost 2 weeks to download it.

I did this because I feel like this might be the last chance to get a version of it that has any vestige of the old order in it, the old order being "trying to stick to ideals and express truth rather than rewriting history to the fascists' specifications."

I'd love to be wrong, but if I'm not, I feel like it will potentially be a good reference in the future if needed.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 134 points 2 days ago

This is in the news because Wikipedia is refusing to rewrite history to the fascists' specifications.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrdydkypv7o

It's possible that India will succeed at eroding by a little bit Wikipedia's resistance to having things rewritten because of various powerful people demanding it. But, if you're looking for an organization that's resistant against those demands, I don't think you will be able to find one that is anywhere near the equal of Wikipedia in terms of the scale at which it operates combined with the resistance it puts up when people do this.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago
[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I donate every year and they made it easier than ever this year if you use Apple Pay or anything equivalent. Like 15 seconds and that includes chhosing amount.

edit: for us with the lazys

[-] fusionsaint@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Thanks for posting this. I just gave my entire Apple Cash balance. I had no idea what I was gonna use it for and this seemed likea worthy cause. Wikipedia just got $140 because of you.

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

That's interesting and terrifying all at once. If the Indian government is successful, it will basically set the precedent for other powerful entities such as autocrats, oligarchs, and corporations to also force Wikipedia to edit their content to suit their desires. I donate frequently and will keep making sure they can win.

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Wow, they really sued the Wikimedia Foundation instead of trying to find a reliable source to refute the article's claims. I looked up the edits they made. They removed content, citing various Wikipedia policies that govern how the article should be phrased.

In general, so long as the information is presented in a neutral, matter-of-fact manner and cites a reliable source, it can go in the article. Wikipedia's job is to summarize what reliable sources say about a subject.

So all ANI would've needed to do was find a reliable source (preferably more than one) refuting the claims they want to refute. The most they'd likely be able to do is put both points of view in the article rather than removing one point of view entirely from the article, which is what they were trying to do.

Instead, they went to court about it.

[-] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 days ago

Kiwix is a self hostable option for this, and you can get other content databases as well, like wikiHow, iFixit, and Khan Academy.

The downloads are much faster than two weeks too.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just some context, Hetzner gave the shaft to the Kiwix project and took down their content servers without any apparent notice (Kiwix's side of the story at least), and they had to rebuild it with another provider.

[-] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Interesting, that's too bad. Seems like it's not an uncommon occurrence for Hetzner.

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