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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 126 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (24 children)

Europe is not as different from the US as it likes to pretend, especially politically.

Racism is not a unique or exceptionally American phenomenon, and the things I've heard from otherwise progressive Europeans can fucking curdle milk equal or in excess to what people in my ultra-rural ultra-conservative home region of the US can say.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 62 points 5 months ago (15 children)

I've had good friends who were Europeans studying here, and they can definitely be very insensitive and racist. What makes the two flavors of racism different to me is American racism is typically very confrontational, tribalistic. White man calling a black man a slur, and there's something cavalier about it, maybe even humorous on the part of the racist.

Europeans have a much more "it is the way it is" attitude. I've heard friends talk very disparagingly about interracial couples, or blacks in general, and the attitude is less "hate for hate's sake" but instead "it is the wrong way to be and my way is correct". Fascinatingly, when you point out the bigotry, my friends have typically refused to accept their bias (at best), and will deny they're racist.

[–] MBM 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

blacks

While we're on the topic, I think "black people" is the preferred term (in general it's adjectives over nouns, like "gay people" vs "gays")

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've heard people of all types use the word 'blacks' I think it's a regional thing.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 months ago

It’s more likely a field thing. People who work in fields highly dedicated to equity (esp. those working in healthcare) are especially concerned with their language and so create style guides that people outside those fields have gleaned from.

Example:

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Hey fair enough. I use whites so I tend to use the same kind of term in the other direction, too. I don't mean anything insulting by it

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