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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If I ever go to Istanbul, I'll be telling people I visited Constantinople.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Fuck that Carigrad or Tsargrad

[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago
[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Byzantium iirc is a different place that is close by.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not sure that's the case

Byzantium ... was an ancient Greek city in classical antiquity that became known as Constantinople in late antiquity and Istanbul today

I think it's just grown over the years

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a bit iffy. Byzantium originally was located a bit further west. After Constantinople was "refounded", it was located a bit further east. Some historians consider Constantinople to be a new city that usurped Byzantium over the years, others don't and consider it the same city altogether.

This is complicated by some sources referring to the place as one and the same, whereas others seem to be indicating distinct (albeit close) locations.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter though. It didn't take long for Constantinople to grow beyond where Byzantium used to be, so the time period where they could've been distinct is really quite small.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

Interesting, thanks!

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, even old New York was once New Amsterdam, so…

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the guy with the captain's hat thought it looked more like York.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago

That this thread became a mixture of They Might Be Giants and Mitchell & Webb is hilarious and i'm here for it.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly, idk. I guess people just liked it better that way

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago

Supposedly, the English took it from the Dutch. The English king gave it to his brother who was the Duke of York and renamed it in his honor.