No, I've never been to Barthalona or Barcelona. Nor am I ever going to either. I'm far to poor to travel beyond local necessities. I have no idea why I'm here at this party. Why you are here?
I am all in to pronounce names & places correctly, aka according to the original language. So, so dumb when a name is "transliterated" to another alphabet and now it doesn't mean anything to anyone, and nobody can read it correctly.
However, for well established names, might not worth the trouble.
I agree to a point, but try Bangkok.
Edit: For the uninitiated, that is: Krungthepmahanakhon Amonrattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokphop Noppharatratchathaniburirom Udomratchaniwetmahasathan Amonphimanawatansathit Sakkathattiyawitsanukamprasit
lol do they say that colloquially? I don't think so?
No. They use Krung Thep, which is short for Krung Thep Maha Nakhon.
Maybe, but what do the locals call it?
Hahaaaaaa... sexy European lisp.
serious question. is it pretentious to use the "real" name of a place instead of it's english name? i'm not talking about pronunciation, but when english people decide to come up with a completely different, name for foreign places
like, "i visited milano, torino, and firenze this summer" instead of "milan, turin, and florence"
Well, most of the Spanish speaking world calls Barcelona the same way we call it. With slightly different inflection, but only the castellanos have the “Spanish lisp.” Which derived from some king who had a lisp, if I’m remembering that correctly? So other Spanish speaking people—most of them, in fact, don’t call it “barth-elona.”
I learned Spanish in Spain, so I started speaking in that lispy Spanish. But as I continued to get way more fluent, living in the other parts of the Spanish speaking world, my accent changed.
Does this mean I have to start calling Los Angeles "The City of Angels"?
Yeah kinda because English speakers know it as Milan, Turin and Florence
Well, I don't think most primarily-English-speaking people would appreciate you mentioning that you visited Baile Átha Cliathe this past summer instead of just saying Dublin.
If I ever go to Istanbul, I'll be telling people I visited Constantinople.
Byzantium, please!
Lygos or gtfo
Byzantium iirc is a different place that is close by.
Byzantium ... was an ancient Greek city in classical antiquity that became known as Constantinople in late antiquity and Istanbul today
I think it's just grown over the years
Fuck that Carigrad or Tsargrad
Well, even old New York was once New Amsterdam, so…
Why'd they change it?
Honestly, idk. I guess people just liked it better that way
the guy with the captain's hat thought it looked more like York.
That this thread became a mixture of They Might Be Giants and Mitchell & Webb is hilarious and i'm here for it.
I can't say
Supposedly, the English took it from the Dutch. The English king gave it to his brother who was the Duke of York and renamed it in his honor.
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