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Since being on Lemmy I feel like I finally found a place I can consider more similar to my home on the web.. I feel like this is the real decentralized web, not the next capitalism nightmare which is the so called "web3"..

Give me some guidance! How is the federation thing going? What are some cool projects I need to know about? I know Lemmy, Friendica, Matrix, Bookwyrm, Mastodon, but I'm sure there's more!

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[โ€“] balsoft@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Federated browsers

That's literally just regular browsers, you can interact with any one of billions of webservers

Federated github

Git is federated by nature, you can add as many remotes as you wish and push/pull to all of them. Add in a mailing list for issue tracking and "pull requests" (patch submissions) and you're golden. You can look up sourcehut to self-host a well-integrated combination of the two.

Federated hosting providers

Not sure what exactly you mean by this but maybe take a look at IPFS, although it's more P2P then federation.

Federated internet

Internet is already fairly federated by nature - most commonly used protocols in the OSI stack are open and you can host your own components of critical infrastructure. Getting others to interact with them might be difficult due to security & privacy issues.

[โ€“] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

github is not just about git though.

[โ€“] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep, but the rest can mostly be replaced with a mailing list. Or, if you're allergic to email, there's also https://forgejo.org/.

[โ€“] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not allergic to emails, I use them a lot, but I think a mailing list is not a federated github, but a mess.

Forgejo is a much better choice in my opinion.

[โ€“] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What can't you get out of a mailing list? You can customize exactly how it displays, and SourceHut visualizes the code review part. What's missing? (I don't think reactions contribute much.)

[โ€“] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

to me it's easier to look through an issue page on forgejo than a chain of mails. search is also easier: inside an issue I can ctrl+f, and across issues of a project there's a search tool. but how would you search across all issues of a specific project (repo)?

forgejo issues can also have tags, associated projects and milestones for organization. also pinned issues for better visibility for newbies and/or easier access to anyone.

mailing lists are like a discord or matrix chat to me: a mostly disorganized flow of messages. probably there are ways to organize it, but doesn't it need the explicit cooperation (e. g. in using a uniform formatting for mail titles) of all participants, including newbies?

[โ€“] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 hours ago

You can make filters for specific mailing lists (in the worst case based on the reply-to header), and I think the tiny bit of convenience tradeoff for centralizing all messages is a benefit.

Fair point about filtering by labels. I personally think consolidated tickets (which are labeled and implemented by sourcehut) should be separate from issue reports, for less identifier inflation if nothing else.

a mostly disorganized flow of messages

Unlike chatrooms, mailing lists also have threads just like any forum.