[Politico] U.S. to include controversial cluster munitions in new Ukraine weapons package (www.politico.com)

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[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Those things being evil does not make cluster bombs less evil.

Russia approves using cluster bombs, so it's fine to use them against Russia.

[-] Muntjac@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I disagree. The trouble with cluster bombs (as with landmines) is that they are indiscriminate killers. Sure, they may kill some Russian soldiers now, but the ones that don't explode (a huge minority of them) will remain in the ground until an innocent Ukrainian child gets blown up years from now.

It's fine to cheer on the 'killing Russian soldiers' part, but when it comes to cluster bombs that comes hand in hand with 'killing innocent civilians, years after the conflict ends', which is less okay.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Unlike the lifetime's worth of land mines that are already there? It's a drop in the water at this point, and I think Ukraine has the right to decide whether or not they use them on their own territory, especially considering the other option may very well be allowing Russians to come kill the civilian population with cluster munitions, something they are already actively doing.

[-] skillissuer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

soviet era cluster ammunition is already in use, and the more firepower ukrainians get now the less uxo from russian artillery remains in their land after the war

also ukrainians asked for cluster ammunition for the longest time, so they made the decision with full understanding of consequences (they were manufacturers and users of cluster ammunition for a long time)