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Opinion on the Matrix protocol (lemmy.ml)

submitted 5 months ago by foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Is matrix good to use, seen a lot of drama around it. For example hackliberty.org left it because of lacking of security and moderation, do you still recommended it?

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

While Synapse isn't great, the problem is that the Matrix protocol is over-designed for a very specific purpose (distributed rooms), that comes with a severe performance penalty but most people don't actually need this for chat.

Its one of these cases of a neat idea on paper, but ultimately a solution looking for a problem.

That said, Matrix isn't that bad overall, but there are better options like XMPP.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago

XMPP is SOOO much easier to admin.

[+] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well... there has been some recent museings about something like that from the CEO of Element, but it would effectively cause a two class federation where some servers can not work independently of others (likely in reality mainly servers running on EMS infrastructure, a bit like how in Bluesky you can't really work fully independent of their infra, and yes Bluesky was explicitly mentioned as inspiration for that idea).

Having those two options fully independent would basically mean reimplenting xmpp in json as an incompatible alternative protocol and that would make little sense IMHO.