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[–] marathon01@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Fact checking sites aren't reliable. Consortium News is run and was founded by world-class investigative journalists who won Pulitzer's. So I'll take them over a “fact checking” site. You must think people are stupid.

[–] NameTaken@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not sure how anyone would read that article knowing anything about Ukraine and not immediately realize this article is biased and misleading. It is certainly bending the truth. I think only a stupid person would try and defend it.

P.S. I've personally been to Ukraine and also know people who are currently there. So I'll take my first person account over you or you're purposely misleading article.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean shit. Knowing people in Ukraine doesn't refute the story.

[–] NameTaken@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago

The fact is that between February and March 2014, unmarked Russian soldiers occupied and blockaded the Simferopol International Airport, most of Ukraine's Crimean military bases, and the Supreme Council of Crimea. The Kremlin stated that no Russian troops were active in the region, but many little green men were operating in this region while disguised as pro-Russian separatists.

After two months of denial, on 17 April 2014, Russian president Vladimir Putin confirmed that the Russian military had been operating in Ukraine.

So by Putin's own account here, sending troops into Ukraine they of course started the war. All of which is conveniently left out of this article. Some great reporting here....

[–] marathon01@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

P.S. I’ve personally been to Ukraine and also know people who are currently there. So I’ll take my first person account over you or you’re purposely misleading article.

I bet you have! /s What part of Ukraine did you visit, East or West? And from which part of Ukraine did the person(s) you talked to come from? Context is everything. Also, you may want to brush up on some unchallengeable history—An actual timeline of events, if you wish to honestly enlighten yourself. https://consortiumnews.com/2025/02/25/ukraine-timeline-tells-the-tale

[–] NameTaken@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why is it so hard to believe someone has been to Ukraine? like really? I've also been to Poland many times and have family there. Just FYI Ukraine borders Poland. Not really difficult traveling between the two. You may have never left Russia (I've been there too) but plenty of people travel to other countries this is not a rare thing. I'm sorry if you have not had the opportunity to travel but would highly recommend you do so. I think it would help you a lot.

History is history and you can't change it. Russia is the aggressor here (and in many other places, they have a pretty consistent playbook) it's not really up for debate (though I'm sure you'll continue to try).

[–] marathon01@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Deleted bc I crossed the line.