'Have a second look': Surge in motorcycle deaths prompts desperate plea to drivers (www.abc.net.au)

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[+] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's weird there's always calls for drivers to be more careful, but not the people making the choice to ride an unsafe vehicle.

Like wearing stilts to a moshpit and asking everyone else to be more careful and attentive.

Yeah, they should be considerate. But at the end of the day, you should be the one that cares most about your personal safety.

[-] zik@aussie.zone 18 points 1 year ago

Nice victim blaming. Most motorcyclist deaths are due to them being hit by cars, but it's their fault you're saying?

[+] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -8 points 1 year ago

No, I'm saying it's weird to ask everyone to care more about someone's health and safety than that person does.

Motorcycles aren't as safe as cars, even if everyone is careful. Accidents happen, and cars have seatbelts, airbags, and a shit ton of other modern inventions.

Motorcycles have helmets and leather jackets, both of which aren't required everywhere so motorcyclists don't even wear them all the time.

If you cared about motorcyclists, I'd think this time would be better spent trying to make motorcycles safer by pushing for legislation.

Hell, they made those inflatable cocoons that go off like a giant airbag years ago. I've never seen one on the road, because they're not "cool". And if someone values safety over coolness, they wouldn't be on a motorcycle at first

[-] Mountaineer@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago

No, I’m saying it’s weird to ask everyone to care more about someone’s health and safety than that person does.

Now do "provocatively dressed women are asking to be raped..."

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

There’s a difference between what is fair and what is common sense. If I had a daughter I would love to tell her she should go wherever she wants, whenever she wants, alone or drunk.

In practice I’m sure I’ll temper that message with some sad but realistic advice about having a friend on the phone while in the cab and never accepting drinks from strangers.

Motorcycle riders choose to put themselves in a much much more vulnerable state, so they have to be more aware and more vigilant. In an ideal world everyone is paying attention and awake and sober on the road, reality is different and I won’t be betting my life on everyone around me driving correctly while riding a petrol tank strapped to a motor.

[-] Mountaineer@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

This is the nuance that givesomefucks failed to express.
Long term motorcyclists are aware of the choice they have made.
That doesn't abrogate other drivers of their own responsibility.