House Democrats are known to be wary of playing any kind of role in shutting down the government. Hell, they hate being perceived as having even considered the idea that a government shutdown could do them political good.
During the 118th Congress, they routinely bailed out a narrow Republican majority when GOP lawmakers just couldn’t pass their own agenda. But now, in the age of Elon and DOGE and with the latest government funding deadline approaching and the House Republican majority as narrow and fractious as ever, there’s real skepticism that Democrats will save Republican leaders from their own failures.
Republican lawmakers certainly are concerned, as evidenced by the fact that they’re already blaming Democrats for not bailing them out.
“Republicans do not have the votes to keep government open on our own,” said Rep. Dusty Johnson (R-S.D.). “So if Democrats want to shut it down, they can.”
Such spin runs hard into some pretty obvious realities. As Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.), the ranking Democrat on the Appropriations Committee, noted to The Bulwark, Republicans hold the agenda-setting White House, comfortably control the Senate, and maintain a House majority, their whisper-thin two-seat margin notwithstanding. With a governing trifecta come opportunities but also responsibilities.
“Who’s in charge? White House, House, and Senate,” DeLauro said. “They got it all. They got the trifecta. Where are they? They can’t govern.”
While Democrats still don’t want the perception of cheering on a shutdown, the party has also grown convinced that it must secure some concession from Republicans in any government funding arrangement. House Democrats aren’t eager to cut a deal with an administration that has thrown government contracts, appropriated funds, and whole agencies into a woodchipper without lawmakers’ input, let alone consent.
i'm glad you admitted it
the far left hyped up gaza into a toxic wedge issue designed to make the dems look just as bad as trump on all sorts of issues. so the left was split and stayed home
trump voters sure are getting what they were promised huh?
well i guess they have herded up a few poor immigrants for show and sold out to russia. as for the rest the far right propaganda machine was peddling? i think they might be disappointed
the center republicans that are now having panic attacks over the sacking of their government and explosion of their economy may well vote dem without any encouragement from liz cheney
Admitted what? that democrats and the DNC are toxic shit stains not worth the time to vote for? Yes, i've been explaining that to people for years. Or that the DNC has no voters to turn to but the left wing which they've been shitting on for decades?
And no, trump and republicans didnt change that equation. its just unfortunate, though unsurprising, timing due to the absolute trash governance provided by the politicians for both parties.
lol. that's a mighty fine fever dream you have there. the MAGA adjacent in the circles I monitor are not even batting an eye at whats going on.
believing there's nothing worth voting for is why trump got in, which is demonstrably worse in every way
If you wanted harris to win you should have held her feet to the fire over gaza/backing biden/no offer any substantial policy for the working class.
Its time you sit down and learn from what happened or it will continue to happen. and you really don't have the time to learn.
Working class americans will not vote for a candidate if they don't have anything to offer, the left wing will not show up for you if you're enabling a genocide.
This is not a my stance is the only logical stance argument, which is a fundamentally flawed approach from the get go because you're arguing with assumptions the group you're trying to convince do not hold or care about. for example, that I in any way care that trump won or in any way feel responsible for the outcome. Am I sadden by whats happening? absolutely, but not enough to support a candidate who was enabling a genocide and gaslighting the working class.
I care that the people I elect will deliver on my values. if your party isnt going to deliver on my values I'm not going to support them. You better start getting these facts through your head or your party is going to keep losing elections.
you didn't want harris or trump to win which made you part of the problem
taking votes away from harris and electing fascism
I didnt take a vote from harris (you literally cant take a vote from a candidate, only give), but semantics. Nor did my vote change the outcome in my state. But yes, we agree, people like me are why harris lost. Time for you move on to the next stage of reasoning.
Now how are you going to get me to vote for your candidate. Its my vote after all.
Think hard now, i know this is difficult for you, you're not alone the dnc has the same lack of logical reasoning you and your ilk have demonstrated repeatedly.
Go ahead, lay out all the information you know so far from this conversation (bullet point format) and draw some logical conclusions. I have faith in you!
And then answer this simple question: what didnt harris do?
aww that's cute i think you finally worked out the toddler level arithmetic of the situation. let's see if we can work on your logic
i don't think you'll ever vote for the dems and i don't think you care that trump got in
the only ones you criticize are the dems. you just want to watch the US burn
ironically the only ones you're hurting by not supporting the dems are the working class and palestinians
Uh huh, way to avoid addressing the point being made about how utterly fucking retarded your world view is about voting and how it leads to facism. Let me clear, I'm wasting my time with you because I do give a shit harris lost, I'm demonstrating to you the issues that need to be addressed and your thought processes exactly mirror the DNC and its why they keep losing.
The problem is you thinking you can just say 'my candidate is shitty but better than the other guy!' and think people have to vote for them, never mind the fact they won't even get out of bed for such a wonderful selling point. Fun fact: most people in america are:
The fact you refuse to answer a very basic and simple question is because you know in your heart I'm correct. Harris and the DNC has been fucking around for literally 3 decades (more really) and not putting forth the work they've needed to put forward in order to win votes. people have had enough and they're done or they're indifferent.
How will you earn my vote (and by extension, other american's vote) so your preferred candidates will win?
Dude, you just tried that AND YOU LOST. jesus fucking christ how fucking dense are you? Your world view is literally the person pissing into the wind and wondering why all their clothes smell like urine.
Do you know what the definition of insanity is? Its literally doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result. The democrats have not been serving the working class for decades.
They literally censored a member of the party for actually calling trump out during his speech.
They actively prevented increasing housing supply for decades.
They willfully killed their opportunity to increase the minimum wage.
They willfully broke a strike and then retroactively got the one group of workers originally against the strike to say 'they did right by us! (by preventing us from getting the best deal)' after seeing the backlash.
We just had a man murder a CEO in broad day light and become a folk hero, and democrats still oppose single payer. (or any actual healthcare reform)
At some point you have to realize the people you're advocating for are trash and that's why they keep losing because people are not going to be bothered to show up for people who do not have policies that will improve that persons situation.
They dont care about LGBT+ or fascism or any of the other reasons you keep spouting. They live in bum fuck no where with maybe 10 closetted LGBT+ members in their town and never even been within 100 miles of a transgender.
When your party platform is essentially we'll continue to fuck over the working class (aka you) at the behest of our corporate masters, the only bills we'll put forward are cash give aways to those same masters but we'll tell you we're creating jobs, and support a genocide in a foreign land of people just like you but dont worry we'll protect the transgenders and reduce the cost of a drug you dont even need (insulin). that shit isnt going to even register on those peoples radars let alone give them an incentive to roll out of bed.
So maybe you should fucking pay attention when a person says: 'yo dawg, I'm not voting for your candidates here's why.' Your first response should be to yell at your candidate to get with the program and not at the person telling you why your candidates are shit. Doubly so when they make it clear they dont give a shit about your lesser evil nonsense. Triply so if their asks literally cost you nothing.
seems like the dems have been terrifyingly bad for "decades"
and yet biden won the last election, and obama a couple before that?
so what happened in the last 4 years?
the far right bullshit machine quadrupled in size, paid for by oligarchs
and the far left started going into overdrive telling the the existing harris voters that she is evil
triggered by that errm gaza thing maybe?
Yes. just catching on are you? why do you think worker rights stagnated? health care? anyways I'm done, its clear you have no ability to comprehend the problems with the democratic party and you're not going to be able to convince me that they're worth voting for when they dont support my interests. so good luck, i'll see you in the next primaries attempting to elect people who support my interests.
Its amazing how categorically dense people like you are. There were 7 or 8 simple policy issues harris could have added to her platform that would have secured my vote and she literally didnt do any of them, instead opting to be a shitty corporate douche nozzle across the board. and yes, gaza was one of them. imagine supprting fucking genocide. you twit.
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