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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I was reading an interesting article the other day about how after World War II people were obviously opposed to populism, and by the '80s and certainly the '90s people that were born after the war had lost the awareness of the danger that hero worship creates.

At the same time, many organizations including government organizations had failed to update themselves over the years, so people romanticized the idea of someone walking in and magically making the correct snap judgments that would remedy the situation. This was so pervasive in the business world I think in part because it allowed corporate executives to justify f****** over ordinary employees. If the company makes or breaks because of one person at the top, who cares if you're paying people minimum wage and they can't even afford to pay for dental care or a car.

What amazed me is how long that vision of Steve Jobs stuck around. Even in recent years people have been praising him, but if you think of the value in his company, it's mostly a load of s***. Those phones and computers are incredibly overpriced, and they have so many bad aspects, especially lock-in, which most people intuitively understand these days. And still we have Apple addicts.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the internet. You can say the word fucking.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

Especially considering it's what about 95% of all the websites are based on.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not an Apple fan, I never liked the way he dictated form and function and told everyone to fuck off about their feelings. Now that said, his leadership did bring some things to market that would not have grown organically, for better or for worse.

The competition had to contend with good phone battery life, unibody laptops with high DPI screens, and large touchpads with physical feedback. Left to their own devices, these companies would have just kept regurgitating/iterating the same cheap designs they had made for decades.

He wasn't magic; if he had any superpower, it was attracting and retaining talent.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Jobs created toxic work environments. That’s nothing to envy. Nothing to replicate. But we’re in a capitalist society so fuck your feelings.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

That’s nothing to envy.

I don't think that word, or anything like it appeared in my statement.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Jobs created toxic work environments.

...and so did Linus Torvalds*


he's certainly not the embodiment of capitalism. But I absolutely have a huge amount of respect for Torvalds, even if I don't approve of his way of interpersonal/professional style.

(I used to run Arch btw [but I run Debian now].)

*He's supposedly taken steps in the right direction here and has made improvements.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Apple just packaged shit other companies made with extraordinary marketing. Like the ipod circle everybody went nuts for they settled a lawsuit with creative because of patent infringement. I actually had a creative zen and loved it because it didn't have Apple software trying to control my music library.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

I think if they would have kept the original tactile wheel that spun they would have been fine. When they redid it into a touch sensitive ring they were screwed.

A lot of the design elements came out of Johnny Ive, honestly I never really liked most of their design elements. But they did try to bring some premium look and feel in a time when every laptop out there was just plastic trash.