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Iris Turmelle, one of the plaintiffs now in high school, told Them in a statement last August that her goal is simply to compete alongside her peers.

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[–] elfpie@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As I said, we can’t discuss it from a theoretical point of view. The way I would go about it is:

  • Trans athletes in their specific fields are outperforming all cis athletes
  • The roster is filled with trans athletes basically

Those conditions would indicate that trans athletes are in practice having their own competition that excludes cis athletes. And this would be the starting point for discussions, not a reason for segregation. Top athletes are more likely to have a constitution that is out of the curve, but that is not enough to guarantee top spots. They have to work for it as well and most cis athletes advantages are just celebrated, instead of the criminalization we see when trans athletes excel.

[–] knokelmaat@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I agree with most of what you're saying. Especially about top sports being a combination of both hard work and a unique constitution.

I just wouldn't call it segregation, as for me this term has quite a negative connotation (might be a language thing). I think it's empowering to have separate brackets to compete in so that every "group" of base constitution has a chance to compete. Though this does open the question of where to draw lines and such, to which I don't have an answer (as it probably goes to theoretical again as you were saying).

Thanks again for your input 🙏.