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What era in time do these people think R's are trying to conserve to, after or before civil rights?

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm also pro 2nd Amendment, but I'm not a stupid single issue voter, democracy is more important than guns lol.

Also, when the fuck was trump ever "pro 2nd amendment"

Remember: "Take their guns first, due process later"

Why do right-wingers think this guy is "pro 2nd amendment"? 🤣

[–] socsa@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am pro second amendment. I believe the constitution explicitly grants the states the right to regulate militias.

[–] Tillman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fun facts: The 2nd amendment was created before bullets let alone bump stocks. Kamala was a gun owner. Trump isn’t allowed to own one because he’s a convicted rapist.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 14 points 1 month ago

It's because he's a convicted felon. The rape thing was in civil court.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not just before bullets and rifling, but firearms were single shot muzzle loaded.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's the relevance? There were also cannons...

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Cannons that were massive and while they could deal a great deal of damage in a single firing, everyone would see it coming. Cannon required a lot of support or else their crew would get wiped out by enemy foot soldiers. You couldn't just pop out, surprise, fire a cannon before anyone notices.

The writers of the amendment wouldn't have conceived of small arms that would allow a single person to rapidly take down dozens of people at significant distance without any warning or support. Melee weapons were the only viable weapons for a prolonged single person fight, with small arms requiring a long reload activity between shots where the wielder was vulnerable and big weapons being huge, slow, and similarly vulnerable before even the first shot. All of the firearms of the time had the projectile go vaguely in the direction of firing, so at range it was essentially useless for a person by themself without a bunch of others firing balls chaotically in the same direction in hopes of hitting their target.

[–] Master@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im pro 2ndA Democrat as well but this who thing is pretty damning proof that there is no need for guns because we Wouldn't use them anyways.

But damn guns are fun to shoot... But im not sure the pros outweigh the cons anymore since the biggest pro seems to be a lie and the biggest con is how many of us die needlessly to them.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah so I'm not using my guns to enact violent revolution. But if the neo-SS comes to take me to a slave camp, they're going to have a bad day.