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Happy birthday, Proton!

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[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 230 points 1 year ago

While I appreciate the efforts Valve puts into improving WINE/Proton, lets not forget that they are standing on the shoulders of giants and gaming with WINE was not that bad before the integration in Steam either.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 227 points 1 year ago

Gaming with Wine was decidedly far worse before Valve started pumping money into it. Back before Proton was officially announced, there was a silent acceleration in Wine compatibility, getting better a rate we weren't used to, and it's in large part due to Valve partnering with CodeWeavers.

[-] sab@kbin.social 101 points 1 year ago

I think the point isn't to say Valve's help isn't appreciated, but to give a little reminder to share some gratefulness with the amazing people developing Wine before Valve got involved as well. It was and is an impressive piece of software in its own right. :)

That doesn't mean Valve wasn't a complete game changer. The fact that they managed to make a handheld Linux gaming device popular among gamers rather than just open source fanatics is impressive as hell, and we're all better off.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago

Oh of course, but I was particularly addressing "gaming with WINE was not that bad before the integration in Steam either", because it really wasn't great, as important and foundational as it was.

[-] sab@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I mean, enthusiasts made it work. Compared to nothing, it's a hell of a lot better. PlayOnLinux was also popular.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "that bad". It has certainly gotten a lot better, nobody is denying that.

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