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The unofficial non-partisan Lemmy movement to bring proportional representation to all levels of government in Canada.

🗳️Voters deserve more choice and accountability from all politicians.

Le mouvement non officiel et non partisan de Lemmy visant à introduire la représentation proportionnelle à tous les niveaux de gouvernement au Canada.

🗳️Les électeurs méritent davantage de choix et de responsabilité de la part de tous les politiciens.

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B.C. New Democrat and B.C. Greens finalize agreement: The accord sets out shared policy initiatives and deliverables for 2025 focused on ... democratic and electoral reform - BC Green Caucus (bcgreencaucus.ca)
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Full text agreement here.

Section 3 – Policy Initiatives & 2025 Deliverables

11. Democratic and Electoral Reform

The Parties will work together to create a special legislative all-party committee to evaluate and recommend policy and legislation measures to be pursued beginning in 2026 to increase democratic engagement & voter participation, address increasing political polarization, and improve the representativeness of government. The committee will review and consider preferred methods of proportional representation as part of its deliberations. The Government will work with the BCGC to establish the detailed terms of reference for this review, which are subject to the approval of both parties. The terms of reference will include the ability to receive expert and public input, provide for completion of the Special Committee’s work in Summer 2025, and public release of the Committee’s report within 45 days of completion. The committee will also review the administration of the 43rd provincial general election, including consideration of the Chief Electoral Officer’s report on the 43rd provincial general election, and make recommendations for future elections.

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[–] MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are correct, we aren't talking about the same thing. I am talking about the actual mechanics and serious downsides of PR. You seem to be talking about how PR does one thing well and then leaping to the conclusion that it is a good thing. Personally, I care about people and the country and PR would harm both. (To you, it seems the harms are just, well, other people's problems.)

It is utterly irresponsible to advocate for a system with significant downsides and then casting pointing out those downsides as not being a fan of democracy.

Have a good night.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

You are correct, we aren’t talking about the same thing. I am talking about the actual mechanics and serious downsides of PR. You seem to be talking about how PR does one thing well and then leaping to the conclusion that it is a good thing.

Well, this is a good example of evading the points being made...

I care about people and the country

Me too, I recognize when options are mathematically superior.

it seems the harms are just, well, other people’s problems

I could literally say the same thing about FPTP! Again, at least with PR, every single policy that is enacted is supported by the majority, can you say that about FPTP?

It is utterly irresponsible to advocate for a system with significant downsides

I agree, FPTP is the least democratic option when choosing democratic electoral systems.

those downsides as not being a fan of democracy.

And yet you still haven't been able to refute the point, only complain about it. Yes, the downsides you bring up about PR are the same downsides you would have in a democracy, and provide no tangible upsides for FPTP...