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The hunter gatherer lifestyle works nicely until you get injured, have teeth problems, get sick, or get pregnant. It also helps to be male and both physically and mentally able, so if you aren't good luck with that.
As someone who's had wisdom teeth issues I'm quite happy to have modern medicine rather than being in the stone age and just having to deal with a broken tooth section rubbing against a nerve...
Dental health of hunter gathers looks like it was much better than ours:
Additionally, they had better spacing due to eating tougher foods like high fiber items and tendons. So there's less dental impacting like we have with wisdom teeth.
Survivalship bias at it's finest. In literal sence of the word
Yeah things didn't really get better until Modern Dentistry so it took several thousand years to get better than hunter-gatherer level
I went to eating like the great plains American first people about 2 years ago and haven't brushed my teeth since
About three months ago I had a dentist clean the plaques off my teeth and check them, to ensure I wasn't too misguided and my teeth had no new damage
The ancient people with great teeth also had bigger heads and bigger jaws. They could fit wisdom teeth
what does that look like? what's a normal day's food look like for you?
Beef, since cattle are the main product of my region. The native Americans ate bison
For dental health the best is no carbohydrates, few acids
Human skeletons don't show dental damage until the rise of agriculture, especially bread
I note that allergies prevent me from adding vegetables - I can't be healthy if I eat tannins or oxalates, many others can tolerate both of those
interesting. do you cook it? how much do you eat on average?
I cook it very lightly – bleu at a restaurant is cooked more than I do at home – as heat destroys the little bit of vitamin C in meat and eat about 1 to 2 kilos a day of the fattiest meat I can buy. I cut my own steaks from a bulk pack, and each weighs between 600g and 800. I could easily win a steak house "eat our giant steak and get free dinner" contest if they still ran them
It averages out to about 1.5kg (call it 3lb) a day
The Lemmy community is Friendly Carnivore
While true, they exist today, and have a life expectancy of like 30. So mostly they just die before their teeth decay.
https://medium.com/@kennamai/the-truth-of-hunter-gatherers-the-healthiest-but-lower-life-expectancy-why-5bb2f149e165
There is of course merit to us having active lifestyles, controlling calorie intake, and balancing our diets, but that's in addition to the fact that we live almost 3x as long as we used to due to modern medicine, so we should continue to follow modern medicine, science, and nutrition.
Nothing in this article addressed tooth decay or dental formation issues.
Also from the article:
I also never said we shouldn't follow science or modern medicine.
Actually patriarchy only came with settling down. They actually had gender equality, which is pretty cool!
Yeah, I've had enough medical issues that I'm grateful for modern medicine too. That being said, it could be conceivable to move to more of a hunter-gatherer model of living with modern necessities. It would certainly be interesting to see what that might look like on a societal scale.