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[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 79 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

The big headline is understandably that it crashes into a fake painted wall like a cartoon, but that's not something that most drivers are likely to encounter on the road. The other two comparisons where lidar succeeded and cameras failed were the fog and rain tests, where the Tesla ran over a mannequin that was concealed from standard optical cameras by extreme weather conditions. Human eyes are obviously susceptible to the same conditions, but if the option is there, why not do better than human eyes?

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Human eyes are way better at this than any camera based self driving system. No self driving system is anywhere close to driving in Swedish winter with bad weather and no sun, yet us Swedes do it routinely by the millions every day.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Yep, winter will be the death of 100% self driving cars, we can "filter out" snowflakes easily, computers can't.

My Volvo (and I mean, if one brand makes cars made for winter, it's them) ends up turning adaptive cruise control off in snowstorms because the sensors get completely blocked by snow. Elon never had to drive in conditions where the whole front of your car ends up looking like a snowbank and it shows. Hell you might need to stop by the side of the road to clear your lights in order to continue driving! Try to make a South African living in Texas understand that!

[–] Sausajuice@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's interesting. I've never had any problems with adaptive cruise in the winter. I'm pretty sure that my V90CC has a heated radar module.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Mine is a P3 so maybe the newer generation fixed that!

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