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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Way more than enough time for a primary

[–] Draces@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's ridiculous. Biden dropped out at the end of July. If you expect candidates to run a primary and a presidential campaign in 4 months, in America, you seriously misunderstand how informed the average voter is. People knowing who Kamala is is a big part of why she was the only valid candidate at the time

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

4 months is more than enough time to run a primary and a presidential campaign. Entire countries do it in 6 weeks. The party didn't want to do it because the party wanted to put in their chosen candidate.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Entire countries do it in 6 weeks when they know it's happening well ahead of time and both candidates start campaigning 6 weeks ahead of time. That's unfortunately not how US elections work.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not how us elections work because that's how the parties want us elections to work. Maybe more importantly that's how the US media wants elections to work. It is easily doable though. Once more we all knew the election was coming and the convention hadn't even happened yet. Easily enough time. Easily. They didn't want it to happen.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes. If things worked differently then something different could have happened. What's your point? How does anything you said relate to the reality of the position Biden left Dems in?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My point is the Democratic party chooses to run it this way. You can't defend them by saying that's the way it is, it's the way it is because they want it that way. They choose it. They can change it whenever they want.

So saying there wasn't enough time is factually incorrect. There was enough time. Easily. They just chose not to do it. This is the position the Democrats wanted.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democrats do not make election laws. Those are an amalgamation of historic Federal and State policy. There are different requirements and deadlines per state to get on ballots. This isn't about a single party. They did not have time to run a primary. That is a massive undertaking, printing the ballots alone requires significant forethought. If the laws were different maybe they would have had time but that's totally irrelevant. We're not playing Calvinball we're talking about what could have happened.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They absolutely had time to run a primary. The way they run the primers is entirely up to them. You can tell this because that's what they did already. They arbitrarily decided that the electors would just nominate harris. There was no law that said they had to run it that way they just chose to. Playing Calvin balls exactly what they did decide to do.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

Take California for instance:

If a qualified political party chooses to hold a modified-closed presidential primary, the party must notify the California Secretary of State no later than the 135th day before Election Day.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/primary-elections-california

That is a deadline that was within days of passing. Do you think it's better to just not have your candidate show up on the ballot??

The way they run the primers is entirely up to them

Stop spreading misinformation just because it feels right. No it is not. That is just one deadline for one type of primary in one state. There are 50 different sets of regulations and deadlines for each state. You cannot believe your own bullshit at this point