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Poland’s main opposition party, the national-conservative Law and Justice (PiS), has proposed an entry ban for people from certain countries in the Middle East and Africa. It says this would help stop Germany’s practice of sending migrants who have illegally crossed the border back to Poland.

The proposal comes amid renewed debate over how to tackle migration, with the Polish government on Tuesday announcing the reintroduction of controls on Poland’s borders with Germany and Lithuania in an effort to prevent the “uncontrolled flow of migrants”.

After Prime Minister Donald Tusk had announced the border controls, the head of PiS’s parliamentary caucus, Mariusz Błaszczak, said that the government’s actions were “too little, too late”.

“This crisis has been going on for months,” he continued. “This issue requires far-reaching action.”

Błaszczak said that PiS would submit a bill to parliament introducing a temporary ban on entry to Poland for third-country nationals from “specific countries outside Europe…whose citizens illegally cross borders”.

Previously, on Monday, PiS party leader Jarosław Kaczyński had called for an “immediate ban on entry to the territory of Poland for people from the Middle East and North Africa”.

PiS has not yet specified which Middle Eastern and African countries would be included in its proposed ban. It says they would be selected based on analysis of data showing which nationalities most often cross borders illegally or are transferred to Poland from Germany.

A government information campaign discouraging people from trying to illegally enter Poland was recently launched in Afghanistan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, Iraq, Pakistan and Egypt, countries from which Poland has identified the largest numbers of people crossing the border from Belarus.

Since 2021, tens of thousands of migrants and asylum seekers – mainly from Asia and Africa – have tried to enter Poland from Belarus, with the encouragement and assistance of the Belarusian authorities.

In response, Poland has heavily fortified its eastern border with physical barriers and electronic monitoring. The government also recently banned asylum claims by people crossing from Belarus. Those measures have led to a dramatic decline in the numbers entering via that route.

In his remarks on Tuesday, Błaszczak made clear, however, that PiS’s proposed entry ban was designed to address the issue that has recently caused most controversy, which is Germany’s policy of sending back to Poland thousands of migrants who crossed the Polish-German border illegally.

Many of those sent back are Ukrainians. Others are non-Europeans, often from Asia and Africa, who have either claimed asylum in Poland – and therefore must remain there while their applications are processed – or have simply passed through it after entering the EU irregularly.

“After the introduction of this [proposed] law, Polish border guards will be able to prevent citizens of these countries from entering our territory,” said Błaszczak. “So those who are today being transferred from Germany by the German authorities, or who are trying to cross from Germany to the Polish side, will not be able to do so.”

The migrant returns carried out by Germany take place under a combination of EU regulations, bilateral agreements with Poland, and the border controls that Berlin reintroduced in 2023. Earlier this year, Tusk declared that Poland may stop adhering to such agreements.

However, some Poles have sought to take matters into their own hands, organising self-declared “citizen patrols” – some of them hundreds strong – at the German border to monitor and prevent migrant returns.

Błaszczak said that PiS politicians will be visiting the German border to make clear that “we support the border defence movement”, which he described as “Polish patriots who took matters into their own hands when Donald Tusk’s state abdicated [its responsibilities]”.

He also pledged that the party “will provide support to those who are persecuted by the current authorities of our country” for undertaking such actions, reports the Polish Press Agency (PAP).

Earlier this week, Tusk and interior minister Tomasz Siemoniak criticised the actions of the citizen patrols, saying that they are disrupting the work of border officers and spreading false claims about the number and types of migrants being transferred by Germany.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol, I already have

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RFE/RL

Additional considerations apply to the use of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL). RFE/RL should be used cautiously, if at all, for reporting published from the 1950s to the early 1970s, when RFE/RL had a documented relationship with the CIA.

RFE/RL may be biased in some subject areas (particularly through omission of relevant, countervailing facts), and in those areas, it should be attributed in the article body. There is no consensus as to what subject areas require attribution. The scope of topics requiring attribution of RFE/RL should be decided on a case-by-case basis.

It hasn't been true for some time now and is generally found to be credible and fairly unbiased and RFA is seen in even a more positive light:

Radio Free Asia can be generally considered a reliable source. In particularly geopolitically charged areas, attribution of its point of view and funding by the U.S. government may be appropriate. Per the result of a 2021 RfC, editors have established that there is little reason to think RFA demonstrates some systematic inaccuracy, unreliability, or level of government co-option that precludes its use.

And MBFC:

In contrast this is what RT looks like:

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Radio Free [Region] is literally a mouthpiece of blatant western imperialist

Ok prove it then, surely something so widely known and "blatant" to be an outlet for misinformation would have numerous online, credible, sources with their evidence

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

Radio Free [Region] is a perfectly credible news source that does a fair job of minimizing bias

In any case, bias != Mis/Disinformation. They're vastly different beasts. One just tries to subtly write things in a way that makes the reader favor their position the other is just straight lies and made up conspiracy theories to force a certain narrative among the populace

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm hoping that !meshtastic@mander.xyz will need to a rebirth of that sort lol

 

Original question by @N0t_5ure@lemmy.world

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Instance blocks are nothing more than a comm mute, even if it worked as one would expect, it does nothing to stop them from spreading their toxic misinformation and propaganda to unknowing new users.

And downvoting to oblivion is not something to be relied upon, IME only obvious ones get downvoted like RT or ones with headlines like "UKRAINE WILL FAIL SOON SUPERIOR RUSSIA..."

Subtler disinformation, from lesser known sources, can still end up with positive upvotes and is just as dangerous

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

.world has not defederated from Lemmy.ml, I really wish they would, being the largest it would be of huge boost to the health of the Threadiverse

But the others are Hexbear and Lemmygrad (if you wanna see some of the things they say, check this thread out (viewed as a local post outside your client) https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48132283)

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

They're definitely not Tankies, but I don't know of their politics beyond that...as it should be IMO for any project intended to be widely used

 
[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Lemmy.cafe is a wonderful little instance that defeds from the whole Triad while federating with most of the rest of the network

 

This is what the admins of .ml cultivate, as documented in the megathread

Credible sources removed just within the last day: https://lemmy.world/post/32298242 https://lemmy.world/post/32426343

.ml is not much different than the rest of the Triad, continued federation with them is continuing to allow them to spread toxic misinformation and behavior across the Threadiverse.

If you're an instance admin, please consider defederation.

Users, consider joining the lemmy.ml boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml instance.

Other wonderful content, and this is just from when I looked at the local new feed a bit ago:

Classic RT I'm sure you all know and Pravda.ru "Pravda Report"

 

This is what the admins of .ml cultivate, as documented in the megathread

Credible sources removed just within the last day: https://lemmy.world/post/32298242 https://lemmy.world/post/32426343

.ml is not much different than the rest of the Triad, continued federation with them is continuing to allow them to spread toxic misinformation and behavior across the Threadiverse.

If you're an instance admin, please consider defederation.

Users, consider joining the lemmy.ml boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml instance.

Other wonderful content, and this is just from when I looked at the local new feed a bit ago:

Classic RT I'm sure you all know and Pravda.ru "Pravda Report"

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's just what the .ml admins do, check out the megathread

Any criticism of them, their instance, the triad, their stances, preferred sources or their favored authoritarian regimes are generally removed.

And, as a cherry on top, they'll turn around and criticize other instances like .world or SJW as the ones who censor "wrong think" or censor criticism of the instance lol

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't sound unusual, it's probably the heat they wanted

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 87 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

is like 'burning the Library of Congress'

Don't fucking give them any ideas

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You're right, but also taking together their comment history, we can reasonably assume that they chose their username with the intent to slur rather than as a more benign meaning.

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