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The unofficial non-partisan Lemmy movement to bring proportional representation to all levels of government in Canada.

🗳️Voters deserve more choice and accountability from all politicians.


Le mouvement non officiel et non partisan de Lemmy visant à introduire la représentation proportionnelle à tous les niveaux de gouvernement au Canada.

🗳️Les électeurs méritent davantage de choix et de responsabilité de la part de tous les politiciens.




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[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Fairvote showing yet again that it’s run by a bunch of idealists who have never talked to someone outside of their bubble.

Even if this is true, how does it change the fact that our current system, FPTP, systematically disenfranchises millions of citizens?

Canadians like local representation chosen by local elections

So you should be against parachute candidates (candidates that place their name on the ballot, without being in the electoral district).

And local representation isn't mutually exclusive with proportional representation...

Ranked choice ballots are the only option that will have the broad support needed to be implemented.

See: A Simple Guide to Electoral Systems

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Like it or not, the average Canadian would rather their representative be chosen by local votes, not based on national proportions. I'm not saying it's ideal, I'm saying it's realistic.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 minutes ago

Like it or not, the average Canadian would rather their representative be chosen by local votes, not based on national proportions. I'm not saying it's ideal, I'm saying it's realistic.

This is a false dichotomy that has been perpetuated for too long. Proportional representation and local representation are not mutually exclusive concepts.

Both STV and MMP maintain local representation while ensuring proportional outcomes. In STV, you elect multiple representatives from somewhat larger local districts. In MMP, you have both local representatives and top-up seats to ensure proportionality.

The evidence doesn't support the claim about what "average Canadians" want either. Recent polls show that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform and over 60% of Ontarians specifically support proportional representation.

What Canadians actually want is for their votes to matter. Under FPTP, millions of perfectly valid ballots have zero effect on representation.

The question isn't whether we should have local representation or proportionality - we can and should have both. The question is whether we believe in a democracy where every vote counts, or whether we're content with a system that systematically discards votes.