What is This Group is About?
De Quoi Parle ce Groupe?
The unofficial non-partisan Lemmy movement to bring proportional representation to all levels of government in Canada.
🗳️Voters deserve more choice and accountability from all politicians.
Le mouvement non officiel et non partisan de Lemmy visant à introduire la représentation proportionnelle à tous les niveaux de gouvernement au Canada.
🗳️Les électeurs méritent davantage de choix et de responsabilité de la part de tous les politiciens.
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We're looking for more moderators, especially those who are of French and indigenous identities.
Nous recherchons davantage de modérateurs, notamment ceux qui sont d'identité française et autochtone.
Fairvote showing yet again that it's run by a bunch of idealists who have never talked to someone outside of their bubble.
Canadians like local representation chosen by local elections, whether you agree with the "fairness" of the outcome or not. Ranked choice ballots are the only option that will have the broad support needed to be implemented.
Fairvote showing yet again that it's run by a bunch of idealists who have never talked to someone outside of their bubble.
You say that when countries such as Ireland and New Zealand completely ditched FPTP and replace it with pr.
Canadians like local representation chosen by local elections, whether you agree with the "fairness" of the outcome or not. Ranked choice ballots are the only option that will have the broad support needed to be implemented.
That’s only true for the party-list system, as the single-transferable vote and mixed-member proportional both have local representation.
Instant runoff ranked choice makes it much more difficult for smaller parties/independents to gain seats and Australia doesn’t perform as well on international rankings like Norway, Switzerland and Denmark do.
Most citizens assemblies have recommended pr after reviewing all the electoral systems.
Fairvote showing yet again that it’s run by a bunch of idealists who have never talked to someone outside of their bubble.
Even if this is true, how does it change the fact that our current system, FPTP, systematically disenfranchises millions of citizens?
Canadians like local representation chosen by local elections
So you should be against parachute candidates (candidates that place their name on the ballot, without being in the electoral district).
And local representation isn't mutually exclusive with proportional representation...
Ranked choice ballots are the only option that will have the broad support needed to be implemented.
In proportional representation, who do I call when I have a local issue that is in a federal responsibility?
If you propose a mixed system, most are local MP with a few extra spread out amongst the other parties, what ridings do they represent?
There is no perfect system, but within a representative democracy where the regional concerns are diverse, unlike most European countries, Canada is the physical size of Europe, proportional representation will always over represent the needs of dense parts of the country.
In proportional representation, who do I call when I have a local issue that is in a federal responsibility?
You still have a local representative under STV...
If you propose a mixed system, most are local MP with a few extra spread out amongst the other parties, what ridings do they represent?
By "mixed system", I'm interpreting that as meaning MMP. The party MPs represent all of Canada. This is unlike FPTP, where the representatives actually might not represent the communities they were elected from (because they can win with less than half the vote).
There is no perfect system
But surely, we can ensure that every vote counts? This is a fundamental tenet of democracy.
proportional representation will always over represent the needs of dense parts of the country.
How? Proportional representation literally means that virtually every vote counts to the results of the election, and nobody gets more or less representation -- exactly how a healthy democracy should be.
